Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

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Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby michael.mandile » 07 Nov 2008, 10:44

Hi. I'm trying to find a record of my great granfather's arrival in the US, in New York I believe. I believe he left Italy in 1890, but I don't know the name of either the ship he was a passenger on or which port it sailed from. However, he was born and lived on the island of Salina in the Eolie islands so perhaps this means he sailed from Palermo. His name was Francesco Mandile, born in either 1869 or 1870.
His name may be recorded as being part of the crew as I'm told he worked on the ships between Italy and NYC from around when his Marine Certificate was issued from Messina on 1 July 1885. (I would also like some help in getting a copy of this certificate! How to proceed?) Can anyone help?
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby suanj » 07 Nov 2008, 11:33

this is a immigration record abt a:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about F Mandile
Name: F Mandile
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1891
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 28

Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples and Palermo, Italy and Gibraltar
Destination: New York
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Anglia
Search Ship Database: Search the Anglia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 11
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_565
List Number: 472
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

but born in 1863 circa; no birthplace....
also it are a:
Mandile, Francisco arrival Oct 29, 1896 Genoa, Naples & Gibraltar, aged 24
http://ellisisland.org/search/viewTextM ... 4669111024
no ship's manifest available....


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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby vj » 07 Nov 2008, 16:15

suanj’s :D 1896 manifest find from ancestry. com

1896 manifest image

Name: Mandita (Mandile) Francesco
Arrival Date: 29 Oct 1896
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Werra
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 2 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_667
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pamGPS » 12 Oct 2013, 00:25

Hello we are researching Frank Mandile too. Our records show he was married to Josephina and had 3 daughters in New York. He later moved to Australia in 1916.

Are we looking for the same Frank Mandile?
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pamGPS » 12 Oct 2013, 22:24

Hello, I submitted a post though I am not sure it went through. We are looking for information on Serafina Mandile birth records, father is Frank Mandile. Sisters are Rosina and Maria. the children were born in NYC between 1903 and 1906. We think that when their mother, Josephina died, Frank and the 3 girls moved to Australia. He married again to Annie (nee ____?) who is also Italian.

Any photographs would also be appreciated!

On my side of the family, I am looking for Puricelli (Agostino) and Brasca (Costanza) from the Milan area.

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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby PippoM » 14 Oct 2013, 09:25

Here is the 1905 Manhattan census for the family:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... c=14535711
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby PippoM » 14 Oct 2013, 09:27

Here is an extract from 1910 census (I can't access the image):

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M57V-V2T

Seems like the three sisters were in an orphanage. Maybe their mother had already died.
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby PippoM » 14 Oct 2013, 09:34

And these are the Mandile's born in New York between 1900-1910:

Births - Records Search Results: 7 records found for query.

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Last Name Given Name Date Year CertNbr Town/County

Last Name Given Name Date Year CertNbr Town/County


Mandile Maria G Jun 5 1902 22559 Manhattan Mandile Guglielmo Nov 3 1903 23485 Kings
Mandile Giuseppe Nov 22 1904 54155 Manhattan
Mandile Serafine Nov 17 1904 53447 Manhattan Mandile Domenico Aug 1 1906 20595 Kings
Mandile Immacolat Oct 25 1906 6120 Bronx
Mandile Rose Mar 10 1908 13878 Manhattan

The red ones might be those you are interested in.
Number of certificate is listed, so it could be requested if necessary.
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pamGPS » 15 Oct 2013, 02:35

Hello Pippo,

thank you for some wonderful information! I had seen the census in 1910 but couldn't make sense of it. Yes Josephina died (we don't have a date yet).

So it appears that Frank and the girls moved to Australia in 1916 on the Sonoma. We don't know yet if Frank married Annie (an Italian citizen)in the US or in Australia.

thanks again!
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby PippoM » 15 Oct 2013, 08:01

This might be the your Francesco's marriage:
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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pink67 » 15 Oct 2013, 08:28

Just in the case that you don't have this record (18 pages):

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/ ... sp?B=40873

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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pamGPS » 22 Oct 2013, 02:30

Hi Pippo and Laura - thanks for this information! -
It is exciting to piece together their story!

Laura, I was unable to access the link you provided - perhaps it timed out. Can you tell me what it its?

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Re: Passenger record 1890, arrival NYC

Postby pamGPS » 22 Oct 2013, 02:34

Never mind - the link worked this time!

So now we know that in 1913 Annie and Frank married. and in 1916 aboard the Sonoma they traveled and settled in Australia. Frank applied for naturalization in 1921.

It looks like a ship of the name Sonoma departed from San Francisco during that time period, but I can't find passenger records for Frank, Annie and the 3 girls.

We are also trying to locate Seraphina's birth certificate.

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