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ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby bibi » 10 Jan 2009, 16:35

vorrei trovare i miei parenti in america ma ho solo un nome " Lucia Succa" so' che e' arrivata a ellis island il 28 gennaio 1911 con la nave " la savoie" ed e' partita dal porto di havre dove posso guardare per altre informazioni? grazie mille

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby pink67 » 10 Jan 2009, 17:02

Ciao Bibi,

benvenuto/a...
Un sito che contiene tantissimi databases utili è Ancestry.com ma è a pagamento....
Qui ci sono tante persone che possono aiutarti :wink:
Ho notato dal manifesto di sbarco del 1911 che Lucia dichiara come ultima residenza Rockvale in Colorado (dal 1908 al 1910) mentre nel 1911 dice di recarsi a Diamondville in Wyoming presso una zia, Maria Berta?
Al momento dello sbarco era single, se si è sposata ha assunto il cognome del marito.... :?

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Jan 2009, 17:23

Ci sono 64 persone negli Stati Uniti con il cognome di SUCCA. Come e spiegato piu sopra la famiglia si trovarono nel ovest nello stato di Colorado e Wyoming ma mettendo SUCCA e nient'altro nella guide di telefono a www.numberway.com si puo trovare tutti 64 con indirizzi e altre informazione. =Peter=

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby bibi » 10 Jan 2009, 18:39

grazie ma se si fosse sposata ....dove posso guardare?

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Postby suanj » 10 Jan 2009, 22:16

nel viaggio del 1908 December, 20 La Provence ship, dichiara di lasciare la madre Maria a San Giusto e di recarsi a Rockvale in Colorado dal parente Pietro Berta:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Lucia Zucca
Name: Lucia Zucca (SUCCA)
Arrival Date: 20 Dec 1908

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: La Provence
Search Ship Database: View the La Provence in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 18
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1179
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: s gianto (S. GIUSTO)
Page Number: 121

purtroppo bisogna conoscere il cognome da sposata... è possibile che abbia fatto registrare il matrimonio anche presso il Municipio di San Giusto, potresti provare a chiedere....
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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2009, 22:20

Links to suanj’s :D manifest

1908 page 1
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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby suanj » 10 Jan 2009, 22:37

thanks Valarie!
In 1910 census I found only this Pete Berta, but not in
Rockvale, CO


1910 United States Federal Census
about Pete Berta
Name: Pete Berta
Age in 1910: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Trinidad Ward 1, Las Animas, Colorado
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1882
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pete Berta 50
Frank Gasper 45
Luigi Gillo 28
Paul Vae 33
Angelina Giorgio 30
Elbridge B Soprio 66
Burney B Sipe 41
Elmer J Conn 18
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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2009, 22:41

Hey suanj :D !
You're welcome
Both locations were mining towns, only about 2 hours apart
= 88.6 miles/142.5 kilometers.
Valarie

1910 census for Pete Berta

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Jan 2009, 23:59

Credo che la sposa e sposato nella chiesa dove abitava or vicina. Puo scrivere al Municipio e domandare se conoscono il nome della chiesa cattolica dove sposavano gli italiani in quel epoca.=Peter=

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby pink67 » 11 Jan 2009, 08:40

Io ho notato che nel secondo manifesto di sbarco Lucia dice di recarsi presso la zia Maria Berta ma anche presso Angelo Molinar a Diamondville in Wyoming....
E in effetti questa persona esisteva:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Augelo Moliner
Name: Augelo Moliner
[Angelo Molinar]
Age in 1910: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Petronilla
Home in 1910: Diamondville, Uinta, Wyoming
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1888
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Augelo Moliner 46
Petronilla Moliner 42
Fred Moliner 20
Minnie Moliner 8
John Bertolino 25
Ernest Bertolino 23

1920 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Molinar
Name: Angelo Molinar
Home in 1920: Kemmerer, Lincoln, Wyoming
Age: 54 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Petronia
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1891
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 510
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Molinar 54
Petronia Molinar 51
Ernest Bertolino 30
Minnie Molinar 17

1930 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Molinar
Name: Angelo Molinar
Home in 1930: Kemmerer, Lincoln, Wyoming
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Petronilla
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Molinar 64
Petronilla Molinar 62
Enock Kukoy 28
Minnie Kukoy 28
Alfonso Baisabetti 42
Linda Baisabetti 17
Anton Fatiga 32

Sai che queste persone erano suoi parenti??

Laura

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby bibi » 11 Jan 2009, 16:06

molto probabilmente ha preso il cognome Sabbrini nel 1915 a OGDEN UTAH .
ho trovato una busta del 1937 spedita da teresa monti 500 iron street negaunee mich.
Come posso avere altre informazioni? grazie mille in anticipo

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby pink67 » 11 Jan 2009, 16:20

Riguardo Teresa Monti questo è un passaporto che si fece rilasciare nel 1923 per un viaggio in Italia:

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Wife of Theresa Monti
Name: Theresa Monti
Name Prefix: Wife of
Birth Date: 7 Oct 1878
Birth Place: San Guisto, Canavese, Italy
Gender: Female
RESIDENCE: Negaunee, Michigan
Passport Issue Date: 10 Sep 1923
Spouse Name: Emil Monti
Spouse Birth Place: Italy
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

pagina 1:
[img=http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3539/montiteresapassportpagega0.th.jpg]

pagina 2 (con fotografia)
[img=http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9611/montiteresapassportapgevr1.th.jpg]

Laura

tutti questi dati li trovi sul sito Ancestry.com

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby bibi » 11 Jan 2009, 16:28

grazie mille laura

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby pink67 » 11 Jan 2009, 16:33

Questo è il censimento del 1920 di Teresa ed Emil Monti:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Emil Monti
Name: Emil Monti
Home in 1920: Negaunee Ward 3, Marquette, Michigan
Age: 42 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Teressa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1901
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 972
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emil Monti 42 capofamiglia
Teressa Monti 40 moglie
Josephine C Monti 17 figlia, nata in Italia
Joseph Monti 15 figlio, nato in Michigan
Catherine M Monti 11 figlia nata in Michigan (è la bambina sul passaporto)
Burt Tappero 27 "pensionante"

immagine:
[img=http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4626/montiemil1920censusyz3.th.jpg]

l'indirizzo corrisponde a quello che hai scritto tu:
500 Iron Street, Negaunee

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Re: ricerca parenti emigrati

Postby pink67 » 11 Jan 2009, 16:52

Bibi,

su questo sito: (gratuito)
http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollection ... search.cfm

ho trovato questo matrimonio:

Details For Marriage ID#177568
Groom Last Name: TRIANTIS
Groom First Name: George
Groom Residence: Kemmerer
Bride Last Name: ZUCCA
Bride First Name: Lucia
Bride Residence: Kemmerer
Place: Kemmerer
Date: 20 Jan 1913
County of Record: Lincoln
State: Wyoming
Volume: 1
Page: 6

potrebbe essere il record giusto... però è avvenuto nel Wyoming...

Laura :D


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