HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up!

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HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up!

Postby carloparenti » 20 May 2009, 15:50

OK, I have been on the trail for over a year now...I thought I finally nailed it, I have been following the wrong Alberto Parenti.

My grandfather was UMBERTO Parenti, son of Giovanni and Carmina Parenti, but he went by Alberto when they did the 1930 census that shows up for San Mateo County/Half Moon Bay California.

Last night I spoke with my aunt, she told me that on the back of a photo she had it listed Umberto with his 3 sisters Lena Del Porta, Nella Iacopetti, and Yolanda Massoni.

I have the legal documents that gave my mother and her 2 sisters June and Marie (Umberto/Alberto) daughters power of attorney for the estate of Yolanda Massoni

Now on the 1930 census Alberto is listed as an alien under citizenship, but his father shows up as non-alien citizen as he entered the US a few times from Italy. I know Carmina my GGM died back in Italy and so did Umberto/Alberto.

How do I find out who was (if any naturalized) as this will kill my chances for the dual citizenship. Any help or info. would be helpful.

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby vj » 20 May 2009, 16:27

Hello!
I'm guessing you'll need to confirm his US records again?"
From your other post, Biff found this 1930 census
Umberto Parenti was born abt 1902-3?
Thanks, Valarie
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Were Umberto and his parents ever in Corning (Steuben County), NY?

possible 1904 manifest

4 May 1904 SS Prinzess Irene, Genoa to NY
lines 20-21
Carmina Parenti, 27 (abt 1882)
- last residence Castelvecchio
- destination Corning, NY
- joining husband Giovanni
child Umberto Parenti, mos (abt 1902-3)

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby carloparenti » 20 May 2009, 16:36

Right...this I have and his date of birth was 12/2/1902, so since this was taken in 1930 it gives his age as 28 which makes sense, he is listed as "al" which i would assume is alien (so he was not a citizen?)

Giovanni his father entered the US 3 times 1903,1909 and 1913. I wish I could find information on their return to Italy as Umberto left Alice his wife and daughters behind and died in Italy. The family rumor is that he was deported.

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby Biff83 » 20 May 2009, 16:42

Another manifest for Umberto
Page 1
Page 2

Name: Umberto Parenti
Arrival Date: 5 Dec 1920*
Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1902
Birth country: Italy
Gender: Male
Ship Name: Melita
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Previously in US 1903-1908*
Last residence and place of birth: Castelvecchio
Neasrest relative in Italy: father Giovanni

*Not in US for 1910 census or 1920 census nor for WWI draft registration

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby vj » 20 May 2009, 16:49

Hello Biff :D !
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Is this Giovanni's WWI Card?
If so, in 1918 he was not a naturalized citizen.

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Giovanni Parenti
439 Main Street
Rochester, Monroe, NY
44 yrs old
born 12 Sep 1874
citizen of Italy
Carmina Parenti, Lucca Italy
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possible 1910 census
Giovanni staying with his brother in Corning NY

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby carloparenti » 20 May 2009, 17:03

Yes, this is my GGF, we had the date of his birth 12/9/1874, but in Italy I believe they put month first, then day and year so date of birth as September 12,1874 is dead on.

Now for Umberto coming into Canada again, does this mean that Giovanni returned to Italy finally as it states nearest relative is Giovanni in Italy?

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby Biff83 » 20 May 2009, 17:31

carloparenti wrote:Now for Umberto coming into Canada again, does this mean that Giovanni returned to Italy finally as it states nearest relative is Giovanni in Italy?


Not necessarily; just means that at the time Umberto returned his father was in Italy.

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Postby carloparenti » 20 May 2009, 17:53

OK thanks. I will have to look into everything again and send for new birth and death certificates. But this new info is great.

It stated somewhere that Giovanni was going to see his brother PARIS here in America, but I cannot locate that name.

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Postby carloparenti » 21 May 2009, 19:58

I cannot find any more information about Umberto after he came into New Brunswick, Canada in 1920. He eventually turned up in Half Moon Bay, California for the 1930 census under "Alberto" after that he really did just disappear for good.

I noticed that it states Giovanni was meeting his brother "Paris" which I am certain this was not his name and there is a Vittorio Parenti that came to meet a cousin in Niagara Falls.

So there is Carmina coming with Umberto to meet Giovanni her husband in Corning, New York which is not too far from Niagara Falls but I know they had more family in Chicago.

I cannot find any information on his sisters "Nella" "Lina" or "Yolanda" which I am thinking they were all born here after Carmina arrived since Umberto was the oldest child when he arrived at age 15 months from Castlevecchio.

The sisters names went from Parenti to the following Nella Iacopetti, Lina DelPorto, Yolanda Massoni (husband Rudolfo or Rodolfo.)

My Mom's Aunt Nella was the only one who stayed in touch with my mother Norma because she felt bad that Umberto left his wife Alice and returned/deported back to Italy. My mom said deported as this is what she was told by her mother Alice.

Sorry for the long post but I really need assistance as me and my sister are the last American Parenti's to file for jure sangunis under Umberto.

By the way they all died back in Italy his mother Carmina died in 1967, Umberto in 1951 and Giovanni in 1942.

Aunt Nella left power of attorney to my mother from her share of the family land back there, who then passed it on to us and there is another name mentioned on it "Arbini" in San Rafael, California.

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby vj » 22 May 2009, 13:13

carloparenti wrote:It stated somewhere that Giovanni was going to see his brother PARIS here in America, but I cannot locate that name.


vj wrote:possible 1910 census
Giovanni staying with his brother in Corning NY

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possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
115 W. Market Street, owns $3000
Corning, Steuben, New York

Paris Parenti 53, abt 1877 IT
- married age 27, abt 1904
- immig 1903, Na
- Barber, Barber Shop
Feledi Parenti 50, abt 1880 IT
- immig 1903
Julia Parenti 22 IT
Laurine Parenti 21 IT
John Parenti 19 NY
Rose Parenti 17 NY
Eda Parenti 10 NY
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possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
115 W. Market Street, owns
Corning Ward 4, Steuben, New York

Paris Parenti 42, abt 1878 IT
- immig 1903, Na 1915
- Barber, owns shop
Felida Parenti 39, abt 1881 IT
- immig 1905
Julia Parenti 1912 NY
Larena Parenti 11 IT
- immig 1908
John Parenti 9 NY
Rose Parenti 7 NY
Eda Parenti 3/12 NY
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possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

John Paris Parenti 41
115 W Market Street, Corning, Stueben, NY
born 9 Jun 1877 in Italy
Naturalized citizen
B arber at 115 W Market
Wife Mrs Felida Parenti
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(repeat from earlier in post)

possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
57 River (?) Rd
Corning Ward 7, Steuben, New York

head Paris Parenti 32, abt 1878 IT
- married 5 yrs, abt 1905
- immig 1903, Al
- Barber, own shop
wife Felide Parenti 30, abt 1870 IT
- 3 children born, 2 children living
- immig 1903
daughter Julia Parenti 2 NY
daughter Lawrence Parenti 1 6/12 IT

Brother John Parenti 36, abt 1874 IT
- married 10 yrs, abt 1900
- immig 1898, Al
- Barber

Sister-in-law Omobelian Sltvani 23, abt 1887 IT

Boarders
Joseph Desena 38

Morris Parente 38, abt 1872 IT
- married 8 yrs, abt 1902
- immig 1910, Al
- laborer, railroad

Adolpha Perotti 25
Joseph Portillo 40
Paul Milom 16
Steven Alexander 22
Victor Placide 23
Julia Finnegan 36
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ST. MARY'S CEMETERY
Town of Corning
http://www.paintedhills.org/STEUBEN/StM ... ornPS.html

PARENTI, Eda T , Born 1920 , Died 1993
PARENTI, Gino , Born 1906 , Died 1907
PARENTI, Julia E , Born May 22 1907 , Died Oct 2 1984 d/o Paris & Filide Parenti, only sisters & brothers survive

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Re: HELP! Parenti family of Castelvecchio/ about to give up

Postby vj » 22 May 2009, 13:32

Moris Parenti, another brother or cousin:

- Living with Paris in 1910 in Corning
- Living with Giovanni in 1918 in Rochester

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Moris Parenti 39
439 Main Street, Rochester, Monroe, NY
born 11 Oct 1879 in Italy
non-declarant


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