Antoinette (a) Greco

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Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby ckolesa » 08 Sep 2009, 23:22

Hello, I am looking for more information about my great grandmother maiden name Antoinette Greco. She was born about 1853-1856 in Italy somewhere in the Naples area. She married Antonio Perrotta(e)(i) and emigrated to New York City in 1887. Trying to find a birth certificate or the Town in which she was born.

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby pink67 » 10 Sep 2009, 13:53

I read your other post:

http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 13593.html

and I believe this is the arrival manifest for Antonietta (travelling with her child Maria, female age 10 and Raffaele, male age 8):
It was normal she was travelling under her maiden name as in Italy women retain their father's lastname for all their lifes even if married....
Unfortunately, being an early manifest, place of birth or last residence are not listed.... :?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Antti Greer
Name: Antti Greer on the manifest: Ant.ta (for Antonietta) Greco
Arrival Date: 2 Sep 1889
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Italy;United States of America
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian;American (Italian)
Ship Name: Alesia
Search Ship Database: Search the Alesia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 14
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_537
List Number: 1201
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby ckolesa » 10 Sep 2009, 14:12

Thank You for the information. How did you ever find it? Each time I look into my background, I find out something new. It is the first time I see a daughter mentioned (Maria) I wander if she died enroute or after arrival. All later information that I have says nothing about her. Do you know how to get information from the differnt towns in Italy. some of my information mentions Cimitino, Italy. I am wondering if that is where she is from. I would also like to find out more information about my grandfather who I believe is from Salerno. Thank you again.

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby pink67 » 10 Sep 2009, 14:12

:D

the first daughter Maria Perrotto is not on 1900 census because she was married Giovanni D'Alessandro on October 11, 1896 in Manahattan:

Maria Perrolta
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Event(s):
Birth: , , Italy

Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: Antonio Perrolta
Mother: Antonietta Greco

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Marriages:
Spouse: Giovanni D'Alessandro
Marriage: 11 OCT 1896 Mahattan, , , New York

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby ckolesa » 10 Sep 2009, 14:23

You are so thorough. WOW! this opens up a whole new area for me to explore. Thank You,. Grazia. Where is Liguria? I have only been to Trieste the home of my father. I hope to see more of Italy soon and to beable to locate my mother's family if any still exist.

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby pink67 » 10 Sep 2009, 14:44

The Liguria region is on the north-west of Italy, on the ligurian see.... :D

I want to point you to this 1920 census that member Suanj found for you:

Suanj wrote:1920 United States Federal Census
about Antoniette Parrotte
Name: Antoniette Parrotte
[Antoinette Parrotto]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York
Age: 67 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1889
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Carl Gangale 40
Rachal Gangale 30
Rachel Gangale 6
Antoinette Gangale 2 10/12
Vitoa Gangale 2/12
Antoniette Parrotte 67
Ralph Parrotte 40


they were living on 661 west 187 street in Manhattan.... well, look at the family living on 159 west 187 street....:

1920 United States Federal Census
about John Alexander
Name: John Alexander
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 23, New York, New York
Age: 49 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1895
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 962
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Household Members: Name Age
John Alexander 49 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1895, occupation Barber
Mary Alexander 43 wife, born in IT, year of immigr. 1887
Alexander Alexander 21 son, born in PA
Tony Alexander 18 son, born in NY
Edward Alexander 16 son, born in NY
Rosina Alexander 13 daughter, born in NY
Beranda Alexander 11 daughter, born in NY
Antoinette Alexander 9 daughter, born in NY
Elizabeth Alexander 5 daughter, born in NY

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don't you believe they could have been Maria Perrotta's family? :D

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby ckolesa » 10 Sep 2009, 14:54

This really makes my heart beat fast, it really looks like it could be. I grew up at 661 w 187th street but never remember my grandparents mentioning her sister or brothers for that matter. I can only vaguely remember her mentioning an albert (brother). It looks like they changed their name to sound more american. I don't know why people were so secretive about their families in those days. It was the same with my father the baby of 12. He never mentioned his family. He wouldn't let any of us learn to speak italian. He was forced to come here by his father and never contacted him after he arrived. I have since found them in trieste and visited his uncle who cried when he met me. He was the same age as my father when he left. He was the son of the oldest brother. I would love to reconnect with my mother's ancesters. Grazia

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby pink67 » 10 Sep 2009, 14:59

I'm really very happy to help!

Do you have death certificates for your ancestors born in Italy? do they list birth places?

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p.s. have you noyiced the first son of Mary and John D'Alessandro was born in PA?

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby pink67 » 10 Sep 2009, 15:16

Here is the 1900 census :

John and Mary were living on 140 Eldridge street, Manhattan and John's mother Rose was living with them...
You know? The Perrotta's were living on the same address: 140 Eldridge Street, they are listed on the previous page!

1900 United States Federal Census
about John Alexander
Name: John Alexander
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 28
Birth Date: May 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1891
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Mary
Marriage year: 1895
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 5
Residence : New York City, New York, New York
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members: Name Age
John Alexander 28 head, born in IT
Mary Alexander 23 wife, born in IT
Alex Alexander 1 son, born in NY :?
Rosy Alexander 56 mother, born in IT

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Re: Antoinette (a) Greco

Postby ckolesa » 10 Sep 2009, 16:04

No, I have no death certificates. I did notice that they were born in Pa. Interesting. Perhaps it was because of his occupation that they moved there for awhile. I have to put all this information together that I have and see what I need to know next. Grazia.


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