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Postby cdevita » 27 Oct 2009, 01:42

I have been searching on Ancestry.com for the past few weeks and have found delightful tidbits of information which I hope to turn into citizenship due to "Jure Sanguinis".

I have all of my grandparents information who were born in New York City. I am working on gathering information about my great grandparents who immigrated to America in 1906 arriving on the Montserrat on July 11th into New York City. I have located the 1930 census records so I know I have the right people because all of the children's names are correct.

I do not have birth dates (but I have birth years) for my great grandmother, Carmela Quaranta (1882-1883) and great grandfather, Antonio DeVita (1863-Died April 22, 1939). And I do not have a date of their marriage.

I know my Great Grandfather was from Taranto, Taranto, Puglia, Italy and my Great Grandmother from Naples. (I do not know which commune).

I have written to the Ufficio Demografici, Elettorale e Statistica, Montemesola (this was their last place of residence prior to immigration according to the Passenger lists) and have not yet heard from them.

Apparently, my great grandparents did not nationalize to America and I understand that my grandfather nor my father denounced their rights as well.

I wrote to the ARCHIVIO DI STATO DI NAPOLI but was told I did not have enough information for them to pursue research.

Please let me know how you work. I could use help. While I find it very fun to look up and research these facts, my time is limited as I am a working mother. Can you help?

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Re: please need help...

Postby vj » 27 Oct 2009, 13:56

Hello!
We would be happy to help.
It will be necessary to find out your g-grandmother's comune (town) in Italy in order for you to locate her records.
If she married in Italy, her marriage record will be kept at the comune along with her birth record (act)
On manifests after abt 1907 the birth location is listed. Before that the last permanent address should be indicated.
If she traveled alone she will be listed under her maiden name - in Italy women retain their maiden names.
Her arrival date and naturalization status can be verified on earlier census records.
Thank you!
Valarie

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http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 14079.html
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Is this the correct manifest?
possible 1906 manifest

11 Jul 1906 SS Montserrat, Naples to NY
lines 16-20

Antonio Devita 30, abt 1876
- last residence Montemesola Lecce
(probably Montemesola, Taranto, Apulia)
- destination Brooklyn NY
- joining relative Fran. Addabbo at 186 Navy Street
wife Carmela Quaranta 26, abt 1880
son Marino Devita 6, abt 1900
son Cosimo Devita 4, abt 1902
daughter Maria Rosaria Devita 9 mos, abt 1905
- possible naturalization notation: 2-821709 9/10/40(?)
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possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
Tillary Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 11, Kings, New York

head Tony De Vito 44, abt 1866 IT
- married 24 yrs (?)
- immig 1906, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- wagon driver, truck
wife Mary De Vito 27, abt 1883 IT
- 5 children born, 4 children living
- immig 1906
son Marinno De Vito 11, abt 1899 IT
- immig 1906
son Patrick De Vito 7, abt 1903 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Marie De Vito 5, abt 1905 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Antonio De Vito 1 3/12, abt 1908 NY

brother (brother-in-law?) Frank Addabbo 44, abt 1866 IT
- widower
- immig 1906, Pa
- barber, barber shop
grandson (of Frank Addabbo?) Albert Addabbo 6, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1906
---

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
203 Hudson Ave, rents
Brooklyn Assembly District 1, Kings, New York

head Antonio Devitto 55, abt 1865 IT
- immig 1906 Al
wife Carmell Devitto 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Marino Devitto 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Patsy Devitto 16, abt 1904 Brooklyn
daughter Mary Devitto 14, abt 1906 Brooklyn NYT
daughter Antontta Devitto 11, abt 1909 Brooklyn NY
son Vincent Devitto 7, abt 1913 Brooklyn NY
daughter Conyette Devitto 5, abt 1915 Brooklyn NY
daughter Nidia Devitto 3, abt 1917 Brooklyn NY
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son Marino?

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Marino DeVita 18
303 Hudson Ave Brooklyn Kings NY
born 15 Aug 1900 in Italy
Citizenship status: Declarant

and from footnote. com

1923 Declaration of Intention

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the
Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1923
Surname: De Vita
Given Name: Marino
Document Type: Declaration of Intention

note: born in Taranto 13 Aug 1900

and

1926 Petition

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the
Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1926
Surname: De Vita
Given Name: Marino
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization

note: born 13 Aug 1900 in Montemesola

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Re: please need help...

Postby cdevita » 27 Oct 2009, 23:53

Thank you for all of this wonder information:

the following information is correct:


Mensaje nuevoPublicado: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:56 pm Asunto: Re: please need help... Responder citando
Hello!
We would be happy to help.
It will be necessary to find out your g-grandmother's comune (town) in Italy in order for you to locate her records.
If she married in Italy, her marriage record will be kept at the comune along with her birth record (act)
On manifests after abt 1907 the birth location is listed. Before that the last permanent address should be indicated.
If she traveled alone she will be listed under her maiden name - in Italy women retain their maiden names.
Her arrival date and naturalization status can be verified on earlier census records.
Thank you!
Valarie

information also on this post:
italiangenealogy.tardi...14079.html
---

Is this the correct manifest?
possible 1906 manifest

11 Jul 1906 SS Montserrat, Naples to NY
lines 16-20

Antonio Devita 30, abt 1876
- last residence Montemesola Lecce
(probably Montemesola, Taranto, Apulia)
- destination Brooklyn NY
- joining relative Fran. Addabbo at 186 Navy Street
wife Carmela Quaranta 26, abt 1880
son Marino Devita 6, abt 1900
son Cosimo Devita 4, abt 1902
daughter Maria Rosaria Devita 9 mos, abt 1905
- possible naturalization notation: 2-821709 9/10/40(?)

NOT SURE WHO THESE PEOPLE MAY BE:

Home in 1910:
Tillary Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 11, Kings, New York

head Tony De Vito 44, abt 1866 IT
- married 24 yrs (?)
- immig 1906, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- wagon driver, truck
wife Mary De Vito 27, abt 1883 IT
- 5 children born, 4 children living
- immig 1906
son Marinno De Vito 11, abt 1899 IT
- immig 1906
son Patrick De Vito 7, abt 1903 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Marie De Vito 5, abt 1905 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Antonio De Vito 1 3/12, abt 1908 NY

brother (brother-in-law?) Frank Addabbo 44, abt 1866 IT
- widower
- immig 1906, Pa
- barber, barber shop
grandson (of Frank Addabbo?) Albert Addabbo 6, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1906

THESS PEOPLE ARE CORRECT:

Home in 1920:
203 Hudson Ave, rents
Brooklyn Assembly District 1, Kings, New York

head Antonio Devitto 55, abt 1865 IT
- immig 1906 Al
wife Carmell Devitto 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Marino Devitto 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Patsy Devitto 16, abt 1904 Brooklyn
daughter Mary Devitto 14, abt 1906 Brooklyn NYT
daughter Antontta Devitto 11, abt 1909 Brooklyn NY
son Vincent Devitto 7, abt 1913 Brooklyn NY
daughter Conyette Devitto 5, abt 1915 Brooklyn NY
daughter Nidia Devitto 3, abt 1917 Brooklyn NY (????????????????)

THIS COULD BE CORRECT-I NEVER HEARD OF MY UNCLE MARINO...

Home in 1920:
203 Hudson Ave, rents
Brooklyn Assembly District 1, Kings, New York

head Antonio Devitto 55, abt 1865 IT
- immig 1906 Al
wife Carmell Devitto 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Marino Devitto 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Patsy Devitto 16, abt 1904 Brooklyn
daughter Mary Devitto 14, abt 1906 Brooklyn NYT
daughter Antontta Devitto 11, abt 1909 Brooklyn NY
son Vincent Devitto 7, abt 1913 Brooklyn NY
daughter Conyette Devitto 5, abt 1915 Brooklyn NY
daughter Nidia Devitto 3, abt 1917 Brooklyn NY

It will be necessary to find out your g-grandmother's comune (town) in Italy in order for you to locate her records. NOT KNOWN
If she married in Italy, her marriage record will be kept at the comune along with her birth record (act)
On manifests after abt 1907 the birth location is listed. Before that the last permanent address should be indicated.
If she traveled alone she will be listed under her maiden name - in Italy women retain their maiden names. HER MAIDEN NAME IS USED ON THE PASSENGER LIST (QUARANTA)
Her arrival date and naturalization status can be verified on earlier census records. ARRIVAL 11 JUL 1906.

Thank you again!

Cherylanne

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Re: please need help...

Postby cdevita » 28 Oct 2009, 05:21

Thank you for all of this wonder information:

the following information is correct:


Mensaje nuevoPublicado: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:56 pm Asunto: Re: please need help... Responder citando
Hello!
We would be happy to help.
It will be necessary to find out your g-grandmother's comune (town) in Italy in order for you to locate her records.
If she married in Italy, her marriage record will be kept at the comune along with her birth record (act)
On manifests after abt 1907 the birth location is listed. Before that the last permanent address should be indicated.
If she traveled alone she will be listed under her maiden name - in Italy women retain their maiden names.
Her arrival date and naturalization status can be verified on earlier census records.
Thank you!
Valarie

information also on this post:
italiangenealogy.tardi...14079.html
---

Is this the correct manifest?
possible 1906 manifest

11 Jul 1906 SS Montserrat, Naples to NY
lines 16-20

Antonio Devita 30, abt 1876
- last residence Montemesola Lecce
(probably Montemesola, Taranto, Apulia)
- destination Brooklyn NY
- joining relative Fran. Addabbo at 186 Navy Street
wife Carmela Quaranta 26, abt 1880
son Marino Devita 6, abt 1900
son Cosimo Devita 4, abt 1902
daughter Maria Rosaria Devita 9 mos, abt 1905
- possible naturalization notation: 2-821709 9/10/40(?)

NOT SURE WHO THESE PEOPLE MAY BE:

Home in 1910:
Tillary Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 11, Kings, New York

head Tony De Vito 44, abt 1866 IT
- married 24 yrs (?)
- immig 1906, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- wagon driver, truck
wife Mary De Vito 27, abt 1883 IT
- 5 children born, 4 children living
- immig 1906
son Marinno De Vito 11, abt 1899 IT
- immig 1906
son Patrick De Vito 7, abt 1903 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Marie De Vito 5, abt 1905 IT
- immig 1906
daughter Antonio De Vito 1 3/12, abt 1908 NY

brother (brother-in-law?) Frank Addabbo 44, abt 1866 IT
- widower
- immig 1906, Pa
- barber, barber shop
grandson (of Frank Addabbo?) Albert Addabbo 6, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1906

THESS PEOPLE ARE CORRECT:

Home in 1920:
203 Hudson Ave, rents
Brooklyn Assembly District 1, Kings, New York

head Antonio Devitto 55, abt 1865 IT
- immig 1906 Al
wife Carmell Devitto 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Marino Devitto 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Patsy Devitto 16, abt 1904 Brooklyn
daughter Mary Devitto 14, abt 1906 Brooklyn NYT
daughter Antontta Devitto 11, abt 1909 Brooklyn NY
son Vincent Devitto 7, abt 1913 Brooklyn NY
daughter Conyette Devitto 5, abt 1915 Brooklyn NY
daughter Nidia Devitto 3, abt 1917 Brooklyn NY (????????????????)

THIS COULD BE CORRECT-I NEVER HEARD OF MY UNCLE MARINO...

Home in 1920:
203 Hudson Ave, rents
Brooklyn Assembly District 1, Kings, New York

head Antonio Devitto 55, abt 1865 IT
- immig 1906 Al
wife Carmell Devitto 37, abt 1883 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Marino Devitto 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906 Al
son Patsy Devitto 16, abt 1904 Brooklyn
daughter Mary Devitto 14, abt 1906 Brooklyn NYT
daughter Antontta Devitto 11, abt 1909 Brooklyn NY
son Vincent Devitto 7, abt 1913 Brooklyn NY
daughter Conyette Devitto 5, abt 1915 Brooklyn NY
daughter Nidia Devitto 3, abt 1917 Brooklyn NY

It will be necessary to find out your g-grandmother's comune (town) in Italy in order for you to locate her records. NOT KNOWN
If she married in Italy, her marriage record will be kept at the comune along with her birth record (act)
On manifests after abt 1907 the birth location is listed. Before that the last permanent address should be indicated.
If she traveled alone she will be listed under her maiden name - in Italy women retain their maiden names. HER MAIDEN NAME IS USED ON THE PASSENGER LIST (QUARANTA)
Her arrival date and naturalization status can be verified on earlier census records. ARRIVAL 11 JUL 1906.

Thank you again!

Cherylanne

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Postby cdevita » 01 Nov 2009, 01:02

If my ggrandfather is Pa (first papers filed but i cannot find them in 1906...am I no longer eligible for dual citizenship? My grandfather was born 1912. I cannot find ANY actual declaration.

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Postby cdevita » 01 Nov 2009, 01:21

So from what I could gather--My ggrandfather put PA on the 1920 census and then filed AL on the 1920...Having a hard time with this one...Can anyone help to clarify this? Does anyone have access to the PA records? I have looked on everything I have available and probably paid for services I did not need...thank you in advance. :)

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Postby suanj » 01 Nov 2009, 06:12

In this ship's manifest it are Alberto Addabbo travelling with Giuseppa sister ( mother Maria Berardo in Palagianello) and joining at father Francesco Addabbo in 278 Till st, Brooklyn NY

pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0017

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0017

in same travel it are Quaranta Michelino age 15 born in Montemesola, mother Maria Spagnuolo in Montemesola, and joining at sister Carmela Quaranta 278 Till st, Brooklyn NY

so, if Michelino was born in Montemesola, probably also Carmela was born in same town....
It is strange that Montemesola common no found the birth record of Carmela.. maybe the birthdate provided is wrong....
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