Help with obtaining certain documents

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Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby grandamn » 01 Dec 2009, 01:13

I have a nice amount of the documents needed but am having problems getting some

GGF Birth certificate
this is the letter i sent to the commune but have not heard back from them. I shipped it out at the same time for my GGM and already got hers a month ago.

05 ottobre 2009
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Acquaviva delle Fonti
CAP Code ACQUAVIVA DELLE FONTI 70
ITALY

Egregi Signori,
Mi chiamo Thomas B. Hart, ed abito negli Stati Uniti all'indirizzo sopradetto. Cerco informazioni sul mio bisnonno, Saverion Verni . Nato nel comune di Acquaviva delle Fonti. Cerco questi dati per richiedere la cittadinanza italiana
Vi sarei molto grato se poteste spedirmi l'estratto dell'atto di nascita di Saverion Verni , in carta libera. Nato nel 1894. Sposato Brigida Ingannamorte circa 1950. (New York City)
Questo sarebbe buono come un documento legale, se non fosse su carta legale. Ho bisogno di questo file con un governo dello stato.
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per la vostra gentilezza e premura, e vi prego di addebitarmi tutte le spese postali e dei certificati.
Distinti saluti,



any ideas on what i should do now? SHould I have sent money? if so how do I send it? will they take a check? USPS dosent offer euro money orders to italy.

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby grandamn » 01 Dec 2009, 01:16

Grandparents Birth Certificates from NYC

they were both born in Queens NY. Purchased them through vitalcheck online and got this response a week later

Your request for a BIRTH VAULT CERTIFICATE for DOMINICA VERNI has been cancelled by the New York City Office of Vital Records for the following reason:


The shipping address given is for an individual who is not named on the birth certificate.


You may reply to the New York City Department of Health staff at the following email addresses:

TO: Credit Card Unit Supervisor - FCarrasc@health.nyc.gov
CC: Director of Customer Relations - TCornish@health.nyc.gov
CC: Director of Public Service Operations - TYasin@health.nyc.gov

both of them are deceased. What should I do now?

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby grandamn » 01 Dec 2009, 01:19

My Fathers Birth Certificate

Right before my father was married to my mother he had his last name changed to his stepfather's last name. His original birth certificate is in the Village of Amittyville in NY (Amittyville Horror) but they said they cant give it to me because his license has a different last name. They then told me to contact the state but they gave me the run around. Any ideas?

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby grandamn » 01 Dec 2009, 01:22

GGF naturalization record

I spoke with a women from a service who said he was naturalized 3 months after my grandmothers birth in 1932. They said they would get it for me for a price but i figured I would try it on my own. I emailed

Joan Young
Archives Technician
National Archives at NY

and she said
Dear Mr. Hart,

This Branch has photographic copies of naturalization records from
1792-1906, filed in Federal, State, and local courts located in New York
City. Also among our holdings are naturalization records filed in the
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York (Manhattan and
Bronx), 1824-1991, and the Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn,
Queens, and Staten Island), 1865-1991.

We searched our Southern (Manhattan, Bronx) and Easter District
(Brooklyn, Queens) naturalization indexes and we were unable to find the
name Saverino Verni.


WHat do I do now?

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby Mulé » 01 Dec 2009, 02:38

grandamn wrote:I have a nice amount of the documents needed but am having problems getting some

GGF Birth certificate
this is the letter i sent to the commune but have not heard back from them. I shipped it out at the same time for my GGM and already got hers a month ago.

05 ottobre 2009
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Acquaviva delle Fonti
CAP Code ACQUAVIVA DELLE FONTI 70
ITALY

Egregi Signori,
Mi chiamo Thomas B. Hart, ed abito negli Stati Uniti all'indirizzo sopradetto. Cerco informazioni sul mio bisnonno, Saverion Verni . Nato nel comune di Acquaviva delle Fonti. Cerco questi dati per richiedere la cittadinanza italiana
Vi sarei molto grato se poteste spedirmi l'estratto dell'atto di nascita di Saverion Verni , in carta libera. Nato nel 1894. Sposato Brigida Ingannamorte circa 1950. (New York City)
Questo sarebbe buono come un documento legale, se non fosse su carta legale. Ho bisogno di questo file con un governo dello stato.
Vi ringrazio in anticipo per la vostra gentilezza e premura, e vi prego di addebitarmi tutte le spese postali e dei certificati.
Distinti saluti,



any ideas on what i should do now? SHould I have sent money? if so how do I send it? will they take a check? USPS dosent offer euro money orders to italy.

Send another message, maybe lost in the mail.

Just guessing at this point: Address should not have CAP CODE but the actual numbers, this is their "zip" code system, the numbers come before the city/town name.

You don't have to send money, I never did, got all mine documents, even in triplicate. There are multiple generic form letters to use if you feel yours wasn't sufficient, but it worked for one document already, so it should be ok.

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby Mulé » 01 Dec 2009, 02:42

grandamn wrote:My Fathers Birth Certificate

Right before my father was married to my mother he had his last name changed to his stepfather's last name. His original birth certificate is in the Village of Amittyville in NY (Amittyville Horror) but they said they cant give it to me because his license has a different last name. They then told me to contact the state but they gave me the run around. Any ideas?


Are you dealing with an actual person or doing it through the website and the dealing with http://www.vitalchek.com/? There must be a way for you to prove you are entitled to the document, just have to pursue it. I would try calling the department of health or vital records department for the state. Start at this link: http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/birth.htm
Looks like you might need a court order:
Only by order of a New York State Court may a spouse, child or other persons obtain a copy of a birth certificate.
So go that route... research the process and submit the court order. If you have money, just hire an attorney to fleece you and handle it. :) Might make sense to get multiple copies at that point to avoid the hassle later on...

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Re: Help with obtaining certain documents

Postby Mulé » 01 Dec 2009, 02:44

grandamn wrote:GGF naturalization record

I spoke with a women from a service who said he was naturalized 3 months after my grandmothers birth in 1932. They said they would get it for me for a price but i figured I would try it on my own. I emailed

Joan Young
Archives Technician
National Archives at NY

and she said
Dear Mr. Hart,

This Branch has photographic copies of naturalization records from
1792-1906, filed in Federal, State, and local courts located in New York
City. Also among our holdings are naturalization records filed in the
U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York (Manhattan and
Bronx), 1824-1991, and the Eastern District of New York (Brooklyn,
Queens, and Staten Island), 1865-1991.

We searched our Southern (Manhattan, Bronx) and Easter District
(Brooklyn, Queens) naturalization indexes and we were unable to find the
name Saverino Verni.


WHat do I do now?
Check census records and start collecting "no records" responses. Submit a G-1041A from the USCIS, search in the forums for links.

Those are probably your next steps. Welcome to the game...


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