Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

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Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 25 Jan 2010, 01:43

I was just wondering...After all said and done, if I should become a citizen and get an Italian birth certifcate, what name is on it? Does it have your maiden name or are you assigned the name of the relative from Italy? For example, I am De Filippis ( maiden) but might be inheriting citizenship through a ****. So would the last name be my maiden, ***** or my married name on the BC?

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Jan 2010, 02:11

Your maiden name as it appears on your US birth certificate. And, yes, your original birthplace is still your birthplace as well.

Your maiden name is also the name which will appear on your Italian passport, however there is the option to display your married name in a field on the passport document reserved for that purpose.
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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 25 Jan 2010, 02:17

So on it would be my maiden name and birth in New Jersey but a copy of it would be in Italy ? Who has a copy of the Italian birth certificate in Italy? The town of the relative who came over?

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PS- Is it the norm to have your married name put on the passport?

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Jan 2010, 03:37

In Italy, all documents pertaining to birth, marriage, death, and citizenship status are held at the comune level.

Assuming that your consulate approves your application, they will forward your documents (essentially, the ones you had translated) to your ancestral comune - the comune of the ancestor whose line you are using. I understand it is possible to request your documents be filed in some other comune, but don't know very many people who have actually done that.

Your "Italian birth certificate" will say basically the same things that your US one does. Your name is Alicia De Filippis, your parent's names are xxx and yyy, you were born in Anytown, USA on such-and-such date, etc.

If you are married, a marriage act will also be created with all of the pertinent information.

In Italy, marreid women do not change their legal name. Your maiden name is your legal name for life. It is the name which appears on your passport, driver's license, etc. You can find this discussed in several threads on this board, One of them is here.

To your question, I think it is a good idea for American women in particular to ensure that both names are on their Italian passport. There will be times when you want to be able to show that the American you and the Italian you are the same person. One example, when you buy plane tickets in the US you need to specify your name "exactly as it appears on your passport." So, let's say you purchase plane tickets to Italy in the name "Alicia Jones" and you board your flight out of the US without incident. However, when you prepare to depart Italy using your Italian passport (you are supposed to enter and leave Italy using it), the name on your passport "Alica De Filippis" does not agree with the name on your return ticket. Being able to point to the little box which shows your married name will be a very good thing. :)
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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 25 Jan 2010, 03:45

You are so informative and thorough! Thanks a million :wink:

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Jan 2010, 03:58

DeFilippis78 wrote:You are so informative and thorough! Thanks a million :wink:

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Just passing on what I have learned, ma'am. I see you have already begun doing the same thing. :D
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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 25 Jan 2010, 04:34

Well, maybe a little. Id hate to misinform anyone being Im new to the naturalization part. Ive done genealogy for a few years but just discovered the laws of dual citizenship. Ma'am...I might be a tad to young for that!Not sure actually...Im in my early 30s, thought that was for the elders :lol:

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 25 Jan 2010, 09:01

DeFilippis78 wrote:Ma'am...I might be a tad to young for that!Not sure actually...Im in my early 30s, thought that was for the elders :lol:

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I worked in a diner back when I was a teenager. A woman of 30'ish sat at my counter one day and I asked her, "What can I get you, ma'am?"

She about had a fit. Let me know in no uncertain terms that she was way too young to be called ma'am. :)
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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 25 Jan 2010, 13:36

See, you should have learned your lesson then! :wink:

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby Mulé » 30 Jan 2010, 18:16

johnnyonthespot wrote:Assuming that your consulate approves your application, they will forward your documents (essentially, the ones you had translated) to your ancestral comune - the comune of the ancestor whose line you are using. I understand it is possible to request your documents be filed in some other comune, but don't know very many people who have actually done that.
I am going to request that my documents be filed in my father's ancestral comune and not my mother's through whose line I am applying. They are on opposite ends of the country. I no longer have any contacts on my mothers side, and I am in almost constant contact with my father's side. I hope this isn't an impossible request as I too haven't heard of many people doing it.

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby passports » 03 Mar 2010, 09:08

I think your married name will be your Italy BC.

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Postby liviomoreno » 03 Mar 2010, 11:39

passports wrote:I think your married name will be your Italy BC.

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You think wrong... :wink: In Italy women keep their maiden name for all their life...

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 03 Mar 2010, 22:03

So if I were to live in Italy my married name would serve no purpose?

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby teddi » 04 Mar 2010, 07:38

Your maiden name is your legal name in Italy.

About as close as my wife comes to using her married name here is on her debit card (Bancomat). I'm the primary account owner, so her card states her name as:
First name, maiden name, "in" married name.

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Re: Whats on an Italian BC if I become a citizen?

Postby DeFilippis78 » 04 Mar 2010, 13:38

Oh thats right! I forgot about the "in" part. So is a name written like that all the time or is it just the maiden usually?

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