Help me with a tranlation

Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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Help me with a tranlation

Postby Mardi » 30 Mar 2010, 19:04

Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could be so kind and help me.
I have located the ship that Vencenzo Calamusa arrived on. On Family Search his name is spelled Vincenzo Calamusa (which is correct) and on Ancestry.com, it is spelled Vincenzo Calamma. His arrival date was Aug. 12, 1903.

I need help with the writing that is by his name. It has a brother-in-law but I can not read the writing. I would appreciate any help. Thank you for all that you have help and done in the past.

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Tessa78 » 30 Mar 2010, 19:10

The manifest states that he is going to his brother-in-law Antonino Speciale at 217 Himrod Street, Brooklyn, NY.

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Postby vj » 30 Mar 2010, 19:12

Here's the manifest, line 22
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1914/1903.jpg
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Hi T :D !
There was a Himrod St in Brooklyn

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Tessa78 » 30 Mar 2010, 19:16

Hi Val, :-)

Yes, and it still exists. I was trying to pull up a google street view.
Thanks for posting the manifest.

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby vj » 30 Mar 2010, 19:19

Hey T
In case you haven't tried this, it's pretty neat
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Checking street names:

Steve Morse One-step pages
http://www.stevemorse.org/

scroll down to
1900-1940 Census ED Finder: Obtaining EDs for the 1900 to 1940 Census in One Step (Large Cities)

This site has terrific lists of street names by city

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Tessa78 » 30 Mar 2010, 19:23

Wow, thanks Val! :D
I've used the Steve Morse site before, but never that link.

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Mardi » 30 Mar 2010, 19:37

WOW, you guy are fast......I could never have read his brother-in-laws name or the street name for that matters.

vj...that is a pretty awesome site

Have another question??? Is there any where that is shows that someone has left the US and went back to their native country. Reason: Vincenzo, came in 1903 and I found him again on the 1920 Census living in Detroit Michigan with his family but he was using his middle name (Jim Calamusa) on the Census. Then he vanished. I can not find any thing on the 1930 Census for his two sons Joe or Nick. Except that Joe and Nick passed away in Clifton, NJ.

Thanks again.....you all are terrific.
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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby vj » 30 Mar 2010, 19:41

Mardi,
Other than passport applications, manifests going to the United Kingdom, and US border crossings,
I haven't seen any records for leaving the US
- U.S. Passport Applications
- 1795 to 1925 UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960: an index to the Board of Trade’s passenger lists of ships arriving in the United Kingdom from foreign ports outside of Europe and the Mediterranean

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby maestra36 » 30 Mar 2010, 22:52

Some Italian towns kept emigration registers and kept track of the goings and comings of their townspeople, so you may want to contact the anagrafe or registry office for your Italian town to see if they kept such registers. These registers would have the dates your ancestor left the town and returned there, if he did.

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Tessa78 » 31 Mar 2010, 09:03

Do you have this WWII registration card for Vincenzo?
Looks like the address was originally Kings County (Brooklyn), NY, but then changed to Niagara Falls. Seems he was working for the WPA. Page 2 of Card is dated 1942.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3977/calamusawwii.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5854 ... awwii2.jpg


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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Tessa78 » 31 Mar 2010, 09:17

Here is a WWI draft registration for Vijenzzo Calamusa, wife Theresa, living in Detroit.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/426/calamusawwi.jpg

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Mardi » 31 Mar 2010, 21:39

OMG....you found his draft registration. So I guess he did not go back to Italy in 1942 or 1943

I appreciate this so much. I look and look for days for any information and you guys find it so quickly. Bless each and everyone of you. Thank you so much.

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Mardi » 01 Apr 2010, 00:27

Have a question on the WW1 refistration card????

Does a WW1 registration card indicate anything about citizenship?
Does one needs to be a citizen to either register for or serve in the armed forces?
Thank you ever so much for all your help.
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Postby Tessa78 » 01 Apr 2010, 02:52

World War I registration cards were required of aliens in all states. It was not a registration to serve, nor was it an indication of citizenship.

This site may help to explain.
http://www.naturalizationrecords.com/us ... _reg.shtml

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Re: Help me with a tranlation

Postby Mardi » 03 Apr 2010, 00:55

Thanks you Tessa78 for explaining about the registration cards.

According to his registration card, now I know that Vincenzo was still in the US in 1943, and he was 58 years old, and that he was born Nov. 16, 1885.
I have looked throught list of Social Security deaths with anyone being born on that date, just incase his name was misspelled and came up empty.
Are there any suggestions on how I may find Vincenzo Calamusa.....also went by Jim Calamusa (his middle name was James) on the 1920 Census.
Thanks for your help.
Mardi


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