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Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 19:20

Hello everyone.....
I am looking for some information on my grandfather Simplicio Villa born 1893 in Celano Italy.....
i would appreciate any info possible or even where to start.
Thanks.
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Re: Villa

Postby maestra36 » 09 Apr 2010, 19:36

There is a Simplicio Villa from Celano Italy on the following passenger list:

SS Duca D'Aosta which arrived on May 14, 1920. To view this record

go to www.ellisislandrecords.org and type in his name

or go to www.stevemorse.org and use the third option which is the gold form and type in his name (this will also search the Ellis Island records, but sometimes is easier and gives you more options for doing so)
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Re: Villa

Postby maestra36 » 09 Apr 2010, 19:36

His wife in the town of Celano was named Santa
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Re: Villa

Postby suanj » 09 Apr 2010, 19:40

michaud wrote:Hello everyone.....
I am looking for some information on my grandfather Simplicio Villa born 1893 in Celano Italy.....
i would appreciate any info possible or even where to start.
Thanks.

Hi,
here the arrival:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Simplicio Villa
Name: Simplicio Villa
Arrival Date: 14 May 1920
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Napoli
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Duca D Aosta
Search Ship Database: Search the Duca D Aosta in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Italy
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2764
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: colano *
Page Number: 256

*Celano
wife Santa in Celano, joining at Biagio Iezzi cousin, 53 Erie st Rochester, NY; already in USA from 1913 to 1915 in NY

really Simplicio arrived in first time in 1912 and not in 1913:
Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
about Simplicio Villo
Name: Simplicio Villo (VILLA)
Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1912
Age: 7 Years ( 17 years)
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Cretic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Craciatro Novannio
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Celvico, Italy (CELANO)
Microfilm Roll Number: 187

father Antonio in Celano, joining at cousin Giovanni Ciaciara(?)
seeming born in 1895/6 abt...
for certificates( birth/marriage) you can write here:
statocivile @ comune.celano.aq.it (NO SPACES)
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza IV Novembre
67043 Celano (AQ)
Italy
helpful form letters in italian language:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 20:25

Wow....you guys are amazing!!
I have spent many countless hours trying to get this info.
I dont believe that he arrived in 1920 though as he married my grandmother in 1920 (i have the wedding certificate). But you are correct about the cousin Biagio as he signed their wedding certificate.
I also have his original birth certificate showing 1893 as DOB....could the 1895 just be an approximate?
So you think he first came in 1912....i wonder why he would come and then go back to Italy and back again. I wonder if its the same Simplicio!
His first wife Santa was from Celano? Do you know what happened to her or any info on her?
The address that you gave me to get info on Birth/Marriage certificate....do they understand English if i write and is there a charge.
I cannot thank you enough for your help.
I am so glad that i joined this group!!
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Re: Villa

Postby johnnyonthespot » 09 Apr 2010, 20:55

michaud wrote:I dont believe that he arrived in 1920 though as he married my grandmother in 1920 (i have the wedding certificate).
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So you think he first came in 1912....i wonder why he would come and then go back to Italy and back again.


Neither of these facts is out of line and many here can point to similar situations in their own heritage. Myself for example...

My paternal grandfather first came to the US at age 17, returned to Italy a few years later, married my grandmother and quickly impregnated her. Before she gave birth, my grandfather returned to the US to plant a new life for his family; his wife and child joined him later.
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Re: Villa

Postby suanj » 09 Apr 2010, 21:04

Hi, I have no more infos; but the records found it are abt the only Simplicio Villa coming from Celano....
He , most probably, came back in Italy, for military service, married at Santa, and again back in USA; I know not why he married also in USA; maybe Santa died very soon, after Simplicio second trip... it is possiblle....
but that is only a my suggestion....
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 21:07

Everyone here is so helpful....i am so grateful.
I dont know how to get this info but.....i know my grandfather was widowed when he married my grandmother in Nova Scotia in 1920. So by the posts i assume he married in Celano to Santa. Somehow i have to put the timelines together of his marriages, move to Canada etc.
I believe i need to know this info in order to obtain my italian citizenship.
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 21:09

Thanks Suanj....you are so knowledgeable.
How would i find out this info that you suggest....along with timelines.
This is all very new to me.
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Re: Villa

Postby suanj » 09 Apr 2010, 21:50

Hi, I know not, but really, it is the only Simplicio Villa on ancestry.com
and no more records.... so he arrived in Canada and married in Nova Scotia... for bad luck the Celano civil record's microfilms by Mormons are until 1865... otherwise for you was possible a deep search and biulding the genealogic tree...
here the trip in 1920
pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004
pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 22:23

Thank you Suanj...you have been very helpful.
I have spent many hours looking for information that you found very quickly.
I now have information that i will hopefully be able to follow up with.
I only hope that my grandfather did not give up his citizenship....im not sure what some of the information on the ship manifest that you sent me means....in terms of whether he was a Italian citizen or not...do you understand it?
I am sooo thankful for your assistance.
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 22:25

Also Suanj....i tried searching for the manifest for his Boston arrival in 1912 but cannot find it.....can you direct me as to where i would find it?? I obviously am very new and inexperienced at this!
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Re: Villa

Postby vj » 09 Apr 2010, 22:46

[quote="suanj] ...

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943

Name: Simplicio Villo (VILLA)
Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1912
Age: 7 Years ( 17 years)
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Cretic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Craciatro Novannio
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Celvico, Italy (CELANO)
Microfilm Roll Number: 187

father Antonio in Celano, joining at cousin Giovanni Ciaciara(?)
seeming born in 1895/6 abt...
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for certificates (birth/marriage) you can write here:
statocivile @ comune.celano.aq.it (NO SPACES)

Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza IV Novembre
67043 Celano (AQ)
Italy

helpful form letters in Italian language:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

hoping helpful,
suanj[/quote]

Here's suanj's :D 1912 Boston manifest from ancestry. com (subscription)

line 18
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4703/1912n.jpg
page 2
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3860/191201.jpg

travelling with others to Sydney N.S.?
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and 1913 Boston manifest headed to Oakfield NY (with others)

line 10
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4834/1913.jpg
page 2
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9923/191301.jpg
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Note: none of the manifests indicate citizenship status - 1912, 1913 and 1920 are lists for 'alien passengers'
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Re: Villa

Postby michaud » 09 Apr 2010, 23:02

I cannot believe how helpful everyone has been...thank you so very much.
Yes VJ he eventually ended up in NS where he married my grandmother. Now i just have to determine his citizenship and hopefully it remained Italian. Im assuming that i will need to have his 1st wife Santa marriage and death certificate in order to apply for citizenship...is that correct??
This has been a great experience !!
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Re: Villa

Postby vj » 09 Apr 2010, 23:10

I'm so glad we could all help.
The consulate where you apply for citizenship will have a list of all of the records that you will need.
You may want to check now what their requirements are.
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