WWII Draft Registration Card = Citizen?

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WWII Draft Registration Card = Citizen?

Postby ncaprio » 03 Jul 2010, 20:34

I am brand new to this... and unfortunately all of my grandparents are dead so there is no one who has easy access to information.

My first Questions is this... I've found a WWII Draft Registration Card for my Paternal Grandfather. Does that mean he was naturalized? Did NON Citizens have to fill out Draft Cards? The good news is it lists his birthplace as Italy and lists his birthday. Although I can't find him anywhere else... in any of the census logs... etc. Not sure what to do next.

Also... I've found the ship my Maternal Grandfather came to America on... but I can't find ANYTHING ELSE on him... and my Mom doesn't remember if he was ever a citizen of the US.

I've ordered My Mom's birth Certificate, my Dad's Birthd Certificate, and my grandparents Marriage certificates... do you think the info will be on there as well?

HELP!

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 03 Jul 2010, 21:28

First answer: No. Everyone registered, whether a citizen or not.

You have a manifest? If it is for a period much later than 1906'ish, are there any numbers written next to/above your grandfather-s name? Notations written after the fact; not at the time of travel. If so, then this is an excellent sign that he at least began the naturalization process.

If you would care to share some information, perhaps we can help locate records. Name, birthdate or year, arrival date, where resided in the US, name of spouse and/or children.
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Postby PeterTimber » 03 Jul 2010, 21:34

When writing for a "long form" birth certificate which has parents names and other pertinent data you request ESTRATTO DI NASCITA (Birth extract) of the original record. Its still free of charge. =Peter=
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Re: WWII Draft Registration Card = Citizen?

Postby ncaprio » 04 Jul 2010, 01:20

Thanks guys... This is what have of my Paternal Grandfather...

A WWII draft registration card...serial number 2634... Ralph Caprio... born November 21, 1884 - in Teora Italy - Living on Broadway in Newark. I had no record of his arrival or of him naturalization!

My Maternal Grandfather Nicola Acquaviva is listed on a ship called the Augustus with arrived on New York from Napes on July 5, 1930 (which in 2 days will be 80 years ago.)... He resided in Newark like most Italians in NJ... is birthday was Nov. 17. (about) 1913... His is listed from someplace called "c abate" (does anyone know where that is?)... He drops off the map after that... no census data... no naturalization records...

And, as I said, all of my grandparents are dead... so I am having a hard time getting any information...

My head is spinning just a bit.

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ncaprio wrote:Thanks guys... This is what have of my Paternal Grandfather...

A WWII draft registration card...serial number 2634... Ralph Caprio... born November 21, 1884 - in Teora Italy - Living on Broadway in Newark. I had no record of his arrival or of him naturalization!


Ralph's wife's first name? Maiden name too, if you know it.

How about his children's names - you must know at least one of them... :)

Any idea who "Rose Percshio" was? She's listed on his WWII draft card as the person who would always know how to contact him.
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Postby johnnyonthespot » 04 Jul 2010, 02:20

ncaprio wrote:His is listed from someplace called "c abate" (does anyone know where that is?)...


Probably Comune di Castellabate , Provincia di Salerno, Regione di Campania (Southern Italy).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castellabate and http://www.comune.castellabate.sa.it/

The Italian telephone directory shows four Aquaviva's currently in Castellabate: http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... abate&l=en
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Postby misbris » 04 Jul 2010, 02:44

I think this may be Ralph's ship's manifest. Can you confirm?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

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Postby ncaprio » 04 Jul 2010, 02:44

That makes sense (Comune di Castellabate) since my mom said that he came from Salerno...

In terms of My Paternal Grandfather... his wife was names Louisa... and his son Nicholas (or Nicola)...

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Re: WWII Draft Registration Card = Citizen?

Postby ncaprio » 04 Jul 2010, 02:50

Well his true name was Raphael... how do you FIND this stuff?!

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 04 Jul 2010, 02:59

Nicola's 1930 manifest.

Note that he was travelling with his mother, (can't make out her first name) middle name Maria, aged 28, his sister Giovanna (aged 8), brother Giulio (aged 9 months). Nicola was 17.

Mother, Giovanna, and Giulio were born in Camerota (also in Salerno province); Nicola was born in Castellabate and worked as a shoemaker.

They were all planning to meet up with Maria's husband / the children's father, Andrea Acquaviva, at 121 East 23rd Street in Paterson, NJ.

From column 17, I would infer that Maria's father's name was Luigi and he lived in Castellabate; and I suspect that her mother's name was Rose Ippolito, also in Castellabate. Now, the question is, is Ippolito her married name (and thus Luigi's surname) or her maiden name. There is some confusion here, as Italian women generally travelled under their maiden name but that does not seem to be the case with Maria...

Manifest page 1: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... apage1.jpg

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Manifest page 2: http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz12 ... apage2.jpg

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Postby misbris » 04 Jul 2010, 03:00

Here is a site that allows searches by any category.

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisgold.html


I searched for R Caprio with a birth year for 1880-85.

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Re: WWII Draft Registration Card = Citizen?

Postby ncaprio » 04 Jul 2010, 03:06

You guys are amazing! Do you have any recommendations of people and/or companies that I can go through to get the Italian Records - my Grandparents Italian Birth Certificates and things of that nature?

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Postby misbris » 04 Jul 2010, 03:07

Possible 1st manifest for Andrea Acquaviva. I think he made a number of trips back and forth.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0002

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Postby misbris » 04 Jul 2010, 03:14

Another possible manifest. Apparently there were 2 Andreas, probably cousins. (Gives you a clue that their grandfather might also have been Andrea) you'll have to sort some of this out.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010

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Postby misbris » 04 Jul 2010, 03:18

Here is another possible trip, but I can't pull up the manifest. :cry:

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 0678030018


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