1910 Census

Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 10 Jul 2010, 23:26

Okay... I'm a little confused (What's new Nicholas)...

Is it possible the Census information is wrong in certain years... Will someone with better eyes tell me what you think this Census says...

Line #76 - Nicholas Caprio

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7683 ... census.jpg

What I see is:

"Year of Immigration to the US" 1897 /
"Whether Naturalizes or Alien" AL

Thoughts?

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby oilman19 » 11 Jul 2010, 00:43

I'm not reading the date any better, but what do you believe is incorrect? He would most likely be an alien in 1910.
Are you aware of an earlier naturalization process?
Also, the census is only as good as the person who provided the info to the census taker. It is not scrutinized for accuracy.

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby vj » 11 Jul 2010, 00:43

ncaprio wrote:Is it possible the Census information is wrong in certain years...


More often than not census information is incorrect
It depended upon the memory or direct knowledge of the person giving the information
Sometimes language was a barrier, understanding the question and making themselves understood
The enumerator could question anyone in the house or even a neighbor

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby oilman19 » 11 Jul 2010, 00:46

sorry Valerie :)
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Re: 1910 Census

Postby vj » 11 Jul 2010, 00:49

Jim, you posted first, my apologies to you :D
I like your answer - absolutely correct and to the point
Good job
Thank you!
Valarie

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 01:13

I have to say - I don't know how I would do this without y'all and hopefully ONE DAY I will be one of the people dispensing knowledge. I am an A Type personality who isn't the best in the realm of patience. MY grandmother used to say... Nicky... Pazienza!!! But alas I digress.


I'm entirely confident that he was an Alien in 1910... I believe he was naturalized at SOME point... and I'm doing that research now...

It's amazing because I have so much info... and yet missing KEY pieces at the same time... like WHERE in Italy he was born...

At the same time I can tell you his birthday and show you his WWII draft registration card!

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6011/capriowwii.jpg

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Jul 2010, 01:21

Social Security Death Index

Name: Nicholas Caprio
SSN: 154-26-XXXX
Last Residence: New Jersey
Born: 12 Jul 1884
Died: May 1965
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1952-1953)

Is this your grandfather?

You can request (for a fee) his Social Security application which will have his parents' names and the place of birth...

https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWe ... t/main.jsp

But be patient... :-) It may take a little time to arrive...

T.

If you don't have the full number, let me know...I'll send you a PM

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 01:31

See what I mean about being lost...

I've searched through Archives dot com... Ancestory... Footnote.... Geaneology somethingorother dot com And couldn't come up with that!!

If he got a SS#. Does that mean he was naturalized?

N

Ps. I don't have the full number so if you could send me a private message that would be great.

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Jul 2010, 01:33

No, you could have a SS# without being a naturalizated citizen.

Of course, that doesn't mean he wasn't naturalized. You just weren't required to be.

I'll send the last four digits in a PM right now.

T.

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 01:37

Thanks Again T.

I think he was naturalized but it is equaly as possible that he begam the process and did not complete it - which is what happened with my Aunt Rosemary's Dad - who was a successful doctor for his whole life. (she successfully became a citizen last year) no one knows for sure.

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Jul 2010, 01:42

Glad to help :-)

T.

PS - Many didn't complete the process, for various reasons... Just makes our search more interesting/frustrating/rewarding/EXHAUSTING :-)

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby Tessa78 » 11 Jul 2010, 02:10

There is a possibility that your Nicholas Caprio appears on TWO censuses.

This 1910 Census from Connecticut for Ralph Caprio and family lists a married son Nicholas, age 23 (close enough), married for 4 years, immigrating in 1896.

On your posted 1910 Census Nicholas was married 4 years, and wife and kids (except the 3 month old) were born in Connecticut.

Take a look...

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6913/c ... ensus2.jpg

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 02:26

That could be. Interesting that he is listed as naturalized in THID census and Alien in the other.

Now, not that I would ever want to disparage my ancestor... But is possible he... Um... Fibbed to the census takers. I know he wasn't naturalized until much later. (if at all).
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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 02:40

Okay. What's even stranger is that the CT Census and the NJ Census were done one the SAME DAY!

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Re: 1910 Census

Postby ncaprio » 11 Jul 2010, 02:44

Okay. One last question. Has anyone been able to use their Powers to devine a ship manifest for my Nicholas?


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