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Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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Postby jessahip » 02 Sep 2010, 21:49

My GGrandfather came to NYC from Italy around 1885-1890s but i cannot find a record of him anywhere is it impossible?I found a record of him on ellis island it has his name but the year is 1903 so that can't be him. I don't think they changed his name. On the Census it says that he got Naturalized in 1890 and became a citizen in 1900.... Are a lot of the census records wrong? Are a lot of these types of records destroyed?

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Postby maestra36 » 02 Sep 2010, 21:57

If he was naturalized in 1890, you will not find his record on Ellis Island. Those passenger lists start in 1892. Have you searched the castlegarden.org website or on ancestry.com, which has free access thru this weekend to immigration records/passenger lists?

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Postby vj » 02 Sep 2010, 21:58

Hi :D !
We would be happy to help you look.
We would need a few more details abt your g-grandfather.

Yes, census records were often wrong. It depended upon who was giving the information and what they knew or remembered. Census records are great for placing folks in a certain location on a certain date :wink: .

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Re: Help!

Postby jessahip » 03 Sep 2010, 00:03

What other details would you need?

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Postby vj » 03 Sep 2010, 13:27

Hi!
Name, approx birth date
Which census you have him on (under what name & where)
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Postby jessahip » 03 Sep 2010, 19:03

He came from Marsico Nuovo, Italy in approx late 1880s According to the 1920 census he moved to NJ His birthdate was May 30, 1872 or 73. His name was Giovanni Marsicovetere, when he moved to NJ on the 1920 census his name was John and the clerk spelled it wrong and wrote Marsicovite and then in 1930 it was John Marsicovete. In NJ they dropped the re off the name. I am looking to see if there is any information that you can find on him coming over. Is there any way to find out who his parents were? Or information on his wife? The census says he got naturalized in 1890 and became a citizen in 1900. Any info you find is helpful! thank you. In the 1920 and 1930 census he was in Hoboken, NJ. In NY he would have been in Manhatten or Kings county not really sure!

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Postby vj » 03 Sep 2010, 19:15

jessahip wrote:...Is there any way to find out who his parents were?...


Thank you for the update
For everyone's reference your 1930 & 1920 census records

1930 Hudson County NJ
http://a.imageshack.us/img94/1213/1930g.jpg

1920 Hudson County NJ
http://a.imageshack.us/img830/2461/1920e.jpg

We'll see if we can help find his ship manifest
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You can request his birth record (act) from Marsico Nuovo

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Or other helpful form letters:
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tters.html

Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/
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address:

Comune di Marsico Nuovo
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Municipio
85052 Marsico Nuovo PZ
ITALY

http://www.tuttitalia.it/basilicata/94-marsico-nuovo/

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Postby jessahip » 03 Sep 2010, 19:20

how far back do birth records go? Could i also possibly find out the names everyone like brothers and sisters in his family?

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Postby vj » 03 Sep 2010, 19:31

jessahip wrote:how far back do birth records go? Could i also possibly find out the names everyone like brothers and sisters in his family?

As suanj :D pointed out in your earlier post http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 18143.html, you can view records back to abt 1867 at ancestry. com with a world subscription: Potenza, Basilicata, Italy, Civil Registration Records, 1861-1938

If you want to conduct your own research into your family's records at a Family History Center, you can go back to 1809 in the Civil Records and even earlier in the Church Records
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Your nearest Family History Center can order records for Marsico Nuovo on microfilm.
The cost is about $5.50 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.
Most folks start with Civil Records
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Civil Records
Registri dello stato civile di Marsico Nuovo (Potenza), 1809-1910 Marsico Nuovo (Potenza). Ufficio dello stato civile

Notes: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... ++di++Mars &columns=*,0,0
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Church Records:
Registri ecclesiastici di Marisco Nuovo (Potenza), 1648-1900 Chiesa cattolica. San Giorgio Martire (Marsico Nuovo, Potenza)
Registri ecclesiastici di Marisco Nuovo (Potenza), 1752-1891 Chiesa cattolica. Santa Caterina (Marsico Nuovo, Potenza)
Registri ecclesiastici di Marsico Nuovo (Potenza), 1647-1889 Chiesa cattolica. San Marco (Marsico Nuovo, Potenza)
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Family History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center
You may want to call first to verify the hours they're open.
Most centers are staffed with very helpful volunteers.

A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp
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Italian Record Research from FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide

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Re: Help!

Postby jessahip » 08 Sep 2010, 16:36

has anyone been able to find anything?


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