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Postby sceaminmonkey » 21 Sep 2010, 04:53

All i am being told is to try different places. My question is if I can not find Italian certificates including baptismal records what are my options can I make a case with the consulate can I hire an Italian lawyer? What can I do?All the suggestions are excellent but i am not hopeful . What are the options ?

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Postby ricbru » 21 Sep 2010, 15:16

italian law says you need to have your ancestor birth certificate, or birth record, or bapt certificate. Military draft card or military record are not acceptable, but they are a starting point if you dont know the right dates, places, and names.
If none of those above are available, there is nothing that can be done.
Beware to who promises you there is a way, because there is not.
I hope it helps bye
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Postby sceaminmonkey » 21 Sep 2010, 15:27

Is it possible to have a birth record recreated based on the military record as I have been told by others

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Postby ricbru » 21 Sep 2010, 15:33

Well, I remember once the State Archive of Florence didn't issued a photocopy of a birth record, but transcribed it somehow.
A birth record can not be recreated from a military document.
Usually who certificates a birth is the civil record office.
This question needs to be asked to the archivist, if they can state that, from the military draft card your ancestor name is.......and he was born on.......at......and his parents names are..........
I dont know if the archive would do it, and also I don't know if italian consulate there in USA would accept a document stating the birth infos of your ancestor, and this document is not a birth certificate or record or bapt certificate.
What I would suggest you is to contact your italian consulate and ask if it would accept that kind of statement (if any) from state archive
I hope it helps
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Postby jennabet » 21 Sep 2010, 22:13

You can try looking in France or some other EU country. Without an Italian birth certificate, there is just no proof that your GGF was born in Italy. He may have lived there from a very young age but that doesn't mean he was born there. People did move around from country to country back in those days.

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Postby ForzaItaliaPgh » 21 Sep 2010, 23:50

You might also see if another line of descent is possible to trace. Some people might have more than one ancestor that qualifies them for citizenship.
Researching BARONTINI family from Tuscany

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Postby sceaminmonkey » 21 Sep 2010, 23:51

no my great grandmother does not apply this is it.


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