My Great Grandfather American Family

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My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Dec 2010, 12:39

Hi, I have another research for you. I'm looking for my great grandfather Scognamillo Giovanni born in Genoa in 1888 married to Sotgiu Vittoria. In 1924 he left Genoa to go to Usa where he lived with another woman called Calosso Tina. He probably died in Usa in December 1969.
I would like to know the town where he lived in Usa and if he had a family abroad.
I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon!
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 17:35

Does anyone know about his history. There are no matches in Ellis Island database:( Plese help me!!!!!

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby vj » 06 Jan 2011, 18:05

Hi, do you have an exact birth date?

There are several records for a 'John' born 8 May 1888 in Sardinia...
Alghero, Sassari, Sardinia

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 06 Jan 2011, 18:14

Not sure how we missed this the first time you posted. Sorry!

Are you absolutely certain of your facts (date, place)? I found this naturalization record which may or may not be your Giovanni:

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Also, I found a Giovanni Scognamillo who served as a crew member during many trips to the US; possibly your guy, possibly not:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Giovanni Scognamillo
Name: Giovanni Scognamillo
Arrival Date: 12 May 1921
Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: White
Port of Departure: New York
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Regina D Italia


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Giovanni Scognamillo
Name: Giovanni Scognamillo
Arrival Date: 7 Jan 1921
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: White
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Regina d Italia


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Giovanni Scognamillo
Name: Giovanni Scognamillo
Arrival Date: 23 Oct 1920
Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 34
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ferdinando Palasciano


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Giovanni Scognamillo
Name: Giovanni Scognamillo
Arrival Date: 17 Sep 1919
Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Genova
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Pesaro

There are many others which may or may not be the same person...
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 18:36

Sorry, he wasn't a crew member:(
I have also checked all lists of passengers from Italy to Ellis Island.
I have known he was born in Alghero (Sassari) in 1888 and then he left Sardinia for Genoa.

Thank you so much!
The research must go on.......

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 06 Jan 2011, 18:43

Not all of our ancestors came through Ellis Island... There was also Boston, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Canada ports, etc.

How about this guy?

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 06 Jan 2011, 18:45

Notice same birth date as on the naturalization index card in my previous post...
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 18:51

I think he is my grandfather! Born in Alghero in 1888, I see the birthdate is the same in both sheets.
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 06 Jan 2011, 18:53

Do you have names of other family members, especially children?
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 18:54

The signature too is probably the same!

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 18:57

He had 3 children in Italy (Genoa) : Aniello, Michele and Tullio.

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 06 Jan 2011, 19:12

Using the information on the naturalization index card in my previous message, you can order a copy of his full naturalization records from the National Archives. It would cost just $7.50 and take a few weeks; on those records you will find the name and date of birth of his wife and children, addresses, and information regarding when, where, and how (name of ship) he arrived in the US.

To place a document order, start here https://eservices.archives.gov/orderonl ... chives.gov and go ahead and create an account on the right. Next, click "Order Reproductions" and then "Immigration & Naturalization Records"

When completing the order form, you may encounter fields which demand you enter something even though you don't have the information available; just put X's or 9's in those fields and continue.
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 19:34

Very interesting!

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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby chaika » 06 Jan 2011, 19:38

With his wife's name Calosso Tina who lived with him in New York is perhaps easy to find other information.
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Re: My Great Grandfather American Family

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Jan 2011, 13:06

I have searched extensively for census and other records and could not find anything more.

On the 1930 US census, I found the page for 119 West 3rd Street (the WWII draft registration and the naturalization index card), but they were not living there at that time.

Also, "Tina" may have been the full name of Giovanni's wife, or it may have been a shortened nickname from one of many common Italian names: Agostina, Cristina, Modestina, Leontina, Martina, Melitina, Santina, Valentina...
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