Grandfather's ship manifest

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Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby Drew927 » 20 Dec 2010, 13:01

I have had no luck finding my grandfather's ship manifest and was hoping someone may be able to help.

His name was Andrea Bongianni born in Naples 1894.
Married in Dugenta CE, Italy October 1920.
He did not travel with my grandmother as she arrived April 1921 through Boston. Her name was Francesca DeVico.
I was told he came through NY between Oct '20 and april '21.
His parents were Eugenio and Rosina Gaeta.
He lived in Melizzano before he left.
I did find an Andrea Borgianni who arrived in Jan '21 aboard the Pesaro but the women listed as his wife is not my grandmother.

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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Dec 2010, 22:39

Here you go:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Andrea Borgianni
Name: Andrea Borgianni
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1921
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birth Location: Benevento
Birth Location Other: melizzano
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Pesaro


He is on line 14:

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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Dec 2010, 22:40

Hmmm... Or maybe not.

Boy, sure does match up pretty well, though.

Could Rosa D'Angela have been posing as his wife simply to get into the US?

I mean, correct age, correct father's name, correct place of birth???
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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby johnnyonthespot » 20 Dec 2010, 22:59

Both Borgianni and Bongianni are exceedingly rare names in modern Italy with no Borgianni's at all in Campania and only a few Bongianni's in the area your grandfather came from.

I would seriously consider the possibility that the Pesaro sailing is the correct one and that either there are things you don't know about your grandparents (we all find skeletons of one sort or another) or, as I suggested in my other post, perhaps Rosa D'Angela posed as his wife for reasons unknown.

Have you looked into naturalization papers yet? They would resolve the issue of exactly when and on what ship he arrived.
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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby jennabet » 21 Dec 2010, 00:32

Yes, indeed, you can open up a big can of worms when you look into the past, especially when you decide to live with the descendants of those who were left behind and they happen to have their own questions. If things don't add up, all will become clear when cousins from both sides of the Atlantic put their heads together.

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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby Drew927 » 21 Dec 2010, 06:53

Thanks for all the replies. This is the problem I have been dealing with.

My grandfather did not naturalize prior to his death in 1939.

My grandmother did and her petition lists her husband as arriving in New York December 1920. That is when the Pesaro departed Naples.
I asked my Aunt if the name on the manifest sounded familiar and she said no.
Also, My grandparents lived in Schenectady NY for several years and that is the destination listed on the manifest.
Since they were going to see Rosa De Angelo's brother, could she have been helping my GF enter the US?
There are so many things that match up but I can't be 100% certain.

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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby Drew927 » 21 Dec 2010, 06:56

Also.. The person listed on line 13 comes from the town my grandmother was born and lived until she married my GF. Valle di Maddaloni is a very small town and i can't imagine that they did not know each other.

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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby johnnyonthespot » 21 Dec 2010, 11:15

For reference, I presume this is Francesca's manifest. I see that it gives her final destination as Paterson, NJ, but that she is going to meet her husband Andrea Bongiami at 282 Bank Street, Waterbury, CT.

That one caught my eye because it is about 2.5 miles from where I am sitting right now. I would send you a photo of the place, except that entire area was razed when Interstate 84 came through Waterbury.

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Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943 about Francesca Devico
Name: Francesca Devico
Arrival Date: 17 Apr 1921
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Princess Matoika
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Andrea Bongiami
Last Residence: Beneventa
Birthplace: Melizzano, Benevento
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Re: Grandfather's ship manifest

Postby Drew927 » 21 Dec 2010, 16:43

Carmine,
Yes, that is my GM ship manifest. When she arrived they lived in Patterson NJ where my Aunt Sue was born before moving to Schenectady then eventually settling in Brooklyn where my Dad was born.

I believe her destination was 7 Lee Place Patterson, NJ.
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