Domenco Carmignani

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Domenco Carmignani

Postby muzcalfish » 12 Mar 2011, 05:12

I'm looking for any citizenship information on Domenico Carmignani.

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Re: Domenco Carmignani

Postby johnnyonthespot » 12 Mar 2011, 15:10

muzcalfish wrote:I'm looking for any citizenship information on Domenico Carmignani.

Karen Fish :)


Hi, Karen.

Is this your guy? Click thumbnails once to enlarge then click again for maximum magnification.

This Domenico appears on several Alameda County, California voter registration lists, so there is a high likelyhood that he became a US citizen at some point.

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Re: Domenco Carmignani

Postby muzcalfish » 14 Mar 2011, 02:54

Yes this is my grandfather! I would love to have some information on Domenico when he was still in Italy. Is there a birth certificate or military information? I believe he was a private in the infantry.

I don't know where to look for that?

This is so interesting, thank you!

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Re: Domenco Carmignani

Postby johnnyonthespot » 14 Mar 2011, 13:20

Domenico's draft records (registro/liste di leva) and, if he actually served, service records (foglio di congedo illimiatato) should be available from the Archivio di Stato di Lucca - Lucca is the name of the province which includes Comune di Montecarlo which appears to be Domenico's place of birth.

You can contact the archives here:

Archivio di Stato di Lucca
Sede Centrale
Palazzo Guidiccioni
Piazza Guidiccioni, 8
55100 - Lucca
ITALY

Tel: (+39) 0583 491465
Fax: (+39) 0583 469396
email: as-lu@beniculturali.it (remove the spaces)
web: http://www.archiviodistatoinlucca.it/index.php?id=46

See this thread http://italiangenealogy.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15162/ for information on how to request these documents.

For his birth and marriage records, write to the comune of birth:

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Montecarlo
Via Roma n.56
55015 Montecarlo (LU)
ITALY

email: anagrafe.montecarlo@virgilio.it
web: http://www.comune.montecarlo.lu.it/index.htm

See the previously linked thread for info on requesting birth and marriage documents.
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Re: Domenco Carmignani

Postby johnnyonthespot » 14 Mar 2011, 14:07

Can you review these two censuses and see if you believe that either or both of them are Domenico?

In 1920, you have Domenico living as a boarder in Washington state. The year of immigration matches the previous manifest and he is listed as married and as having filed his naturalization papers ("Pa"):

1920 United States Federal Census about Domenico Carmignioni
Name: Domenico Carmignioni
[Domenico Carmignani]
Home in 1920: Aberdeen Ward 5, Grays Harbor, Washington
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1914
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age
Diulio Guintoli 36
Gemma Guintoli 33
Norena Guintoli 13
Nello Guintoli 10
Bruno Guintoli 7
Danny Guintoli 6
Pete Guintoli 30
Domenico Carmignioni 29

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The 1930 census, also from Washington state, has a few important differences. His year of immigration is off by a few (not uncommon), he is listed as an Alien ("Al") - possibly his request for naturalization failed?, and - most importantly - his wife's name is given as Olga; on the passenger manifest above, he says that he left his wife in Montecarlo and that her name was "Pio" - the masculine form of Pia which is probably what was meant.

1930 United States Federal Census about Dominic Carmignani
Name: Dominic Carmignani
Home in 1930: Moclips, Grays Harbor, Washington
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Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Olga Carmignani
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Dominic Carmignani 37
Olga Carmignani 29
Almato Carmignani 7
Mary Carmignani 6
Martin Carmignani 9

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It was not unusaul for men to come over to the US alone to get settled and earn some money, then either send for their spouse/children, or return to Italy to fetch them and come back together. But, I have to wonder if Domenico left Pia behind and then married Olga in this country? Does either of these names mean anything to you?
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