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Postby Falerna » 28 Mar 2011, 20:48

Hi, I just joined Italian Geneology, and I hope I'm in the right place to find out which ship my grandmother and aunt came over on in March of 1937. They left Rome on either the Rex or Conte di Savoie. Their last name is Gallo or Folinogallo, Maria and Caterina. Thanks so much!
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Postby johnnyonthespot » 29 Mar 2011, 10:35

Can you give us some idea as to the year of birth for Caterina and Maria?

Was either of them married at the time they emigrated? If so, what was the married name?
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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 10:55

wrong manifest :-)
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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 10:58

Another Possibility...

Oct. 1937 on the Rex...
Maria Gallo, 17
Traveling with father Luigi
Destination Philadelphia.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Gallo
Name: Maria Gallo
Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1937
Birth Year: abt 1920
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Rex

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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 11:03

deleted :-)

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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 11:09

Falerna wrote:Hi, I just joined Italian Geneology, and I hope I'm in the right place to find out which ship my grandmother and aunt came over on in March of 1937. They left Rome on either the Rex or Conte di Savoie. Their last name is Gallo or Folinogallo, Maria and Caterina. Thanks so much!


Here is a 1935 manifest for Maria Gallo, age 78
Going to her son Giovanni Folino Gallo in Ohio

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Gallo
Name: Maria Gallo
Arrival Date: 1 Aug 1935

Birth Year: abt 1857
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: Falerna
Age: 78
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian;Italian (South) (Italian)
Place of Origin: Italy
Friend's Name: Folino Gallo
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Rex

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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 11:19

OK - I think this is a good possibility...

However the ship is the SS Roma, not the Rex

Arriving March 1937 in NY
Maria Romana Crocce (Gallo) age 33
Daughter Caterina Gallo age 7 (US citizen)

Leaving father/grandfather Saverio in Falerna
Going to husband/father Pietro Folino Gallo @ 2025 Thurston St., Pittsburgh

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Postby Falerna » 29 Mar 2011, 11:20

To clarify, my grandmother, Maria, was born in 1904. She would have been about 30, and my aunt Caterina was born in 1930, so she would have been 6. They left Rome and came to Ellis Island in March 1937. Their last name is Gallo, but my aunt thinks that when they lived in Italy, their last name may have been Folinogallo. She thinks it was shortened when they arrived in New York.
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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 11:22

I think the last manifest I posted with images is the correct one... :-)

Ships sailed from Genoa, Naples and Palermo, when leaving Italy.

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Postby Falerna » 29 Mar 2011, 11:34

Tessa, yes, that is it! Thank you so very much.

This site is very confusing to me! I guess I didn't see it at first.
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Postby johnnyonthespot » 29 Mar 2011, 11:37

Gret find, Tess!

To clarify, Maria's maiden name appears to be Crocce. Italian women mostly appeard on manifests using their maiden names unless they were traveling with their husband.

Notice also that Caterina Gallo is listed as a US citizen. It is possible that she had never before been in the US; however if her father was a naturalized citizen, all of his minor children would have earned US citizenship at the same time so long as they entered the US prior to the age of majority.

Automatic citizenship for spouses ended in 1920-something, so Maria is still an Italian citizen. If someone in this family (you, perhaps?) was interested in jure sanguinis citizenship, you would be able to do so only through Maria, only through her children born on or after January 1, 1948, and only on the assumption that Maria did not herself become a naturalized US citizen prior to those births.
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Postby Falerna » 29 Mar 2011, 11:50

I wondered why my aunt was listed as a U.S. Citizen. My grandfather had come to Pittsburgh several years prior to my grandmother and aunt. My grandmother did become a U.S. citizen. She passed away in 1998 at the age of 94.
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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 12:51

Don't know if you already have this...

Birth Record for Maria Romana Crocco
Born June 1904 in Falerna

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Maria Romana Crocco was born on 10 June 1904 at 11:40 PM at the house at 15 Via Sanitaria; to Saverio Crocco, 38, peasant farmer and his wife Antonia Maruca. Saverio presented the child at the town hall on 11 June 1904.
Witnesses were Giovan Tommaso Sami, 32, landowner; and Domenico Antonio Sami, 62, landowner.


The notation in the left column states that Maria married Pietro Antonio Folino Gallo on 9 November 1924 (the dates are written day/month/year) and recorded on 1 December 1924

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Postby Tessa78 » 29 Mar 2011, 13:07

Marriage Act of Pietro Antonio Folino Gallo and Maria Romana Crocco

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Pietro, 29, day laborer, son of Francesco and of deceased Caterina Marianna
Maria, 20, housewife, daughter of Saverio and of Antonia Maruca.

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Postby johnnyonthespot » 29 Mar 2011, 13:37

Tess, you are making me insanely jealous!

I wish they would hurry up and get atti images from my comuni online...
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