Trying to trace village in Italy

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Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby carolyn viviani » 25 Jul 2011, 20:22

I am trying to trace where in Italy my husband's family came from
Rumours abound within the family.
I have carried out research and found out a great deal,none of which anyone else knew.
As such we cannot rely on what was stated.
My husband's grandfather Iginio Viviani born around 1890 came to Scotland with his sister Filumena born around 1892 before the 1911 census.Sometime later his much younger brother Ellero born 1899 followed.
Filumena married a Mr Matteucci-they appear to have left Scotland,returned to Italy around 1924,or gone to America,we don't know.
Iginio returned to Italy shortly after 1925 with his wife and growing family,but seems to have returned to Scotland around 1929.
Ellero also eventually based himself permanently in Scotland.
Much family tragedy then appears to have beset the family over the next few years and contacts with various members of all the different families were lost.
We would like to find out where Iginio Viviani and his siblings came from.
Their parents were Angelo Viviani and Maria Moriconi.
There appears no trace in the passenger lists,but we were told it was by ship.
Unfortunately my husband's father passed away sometime ago.
The children are interested which is why I have researched so far.
There appears a tie to Liguria but I cannot get any further than that.
Viviani is not a common name there
He was in a boarding house with Matteucci and Quadrelli.
They were employed at the outset by a Mr Biagi .I have read that the Italians recruited from their own localities,so there may be a common area.
I would be interested to receive any information that may assist.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby corrado » 26 Jul 2011, 06:03

This is not an easy task Carolyn but I would try to get Iginio Viviani's draft record in Italy, assuming he left after he was 18. This record is kept in the provincial capital. It would have the comune of birth and then you are there. Other sources are the catholic chruch reocrds in scotland if he was married, it may have the comune on that record. Also the death cert, may have the record. I hope of of these kind people will be of further help. They have great resources, but that is a fall back. I have used draft records in the past. Again it is more than a notion, but I see you are willing to do some work.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby suanj » 26 Jul 2011, 11:34

Hi, all surnames that you mentioned are in Camaiore town( Lucca province, Tuscany, IT) but also it is possible that your Igino was born in some other Commune in the area...
just a suggestion,
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maybe Mr Matteucci was Mr Ugo Matteucci and Mr Biagi was Mr Celestino Biagi??
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby PippoM » 26 Jul 2011, 14:01

Mine can be just a trace...
In Ellis Island, there are only 4 Ellero's (as a name, not surname) from Italy. They all were from Forlì or province.
But, as Suanj said, all the surnames you mentioned are common in Tuscany.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby Italysearcher » 26 Jul 2011, 14:56

1911 census should give you his town of birth. At least it does in England.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby Big Viv » 29 Dec 2011, 01:45

Hi Carolyn,
I don't think I can help you but you may be able to help me.
My father is from Scotland and we bear the Viviani name but of the family history I know nothing and as my father and his family no longer communicate.
I have little knowledge of my family history, all I have is his Grandfather - Gino, Parents- Gino & Eleanor (a whole lot of brothers & sisters), Uncle - Mario, Home town Kilmarnock.
Does any of this tie in with your branch of the Viviani clan and if so could you give me the bare bones of the history you have.
My father came to Australia in 1982.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby annaria » 13 Mar 2012, 20:50

Hallo,
I'm Anna Maria Matteucci and Filomena Viviani was my grand grand mother.
We live in Viareggio but my father was born in Camaiore: Giuliano Matteucci.
Filomena had 4 children: Berti, Romolo (was my grand father), Lino and Daisy.
I've a old foto of her with her husband. If you like i'll send it.
If you want to contact me and my family to have other informations you can write to:
olimpia.olimpia@alice.it
I hope to receive your news
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby kevinfawcett » 22 Apr 2013, 13:12

Hi Big Viv,

I'm trying to contact Gino, as his Duke of Edinburgh's Award Leader, Jenny Ramsey - yup she's still going strong - would like to get in touch, but has lost his contact details, she believes that he is somewhere in the Edinburgh area.

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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby viviani cristina » 17 Feb 2014, 18:26

Hi Carolyn, I try to write in english but I'm sorry for my english.
I am Cristina Viviani, the nephew of Maddalena, borned in Capezzano Monte in Pietrasanta Lucca in 1901. She was the fifth daughter of Angelo Viviani and Maria Moriconi and his brothers were Ellero Filomena Ellera and Gino.
My father Viviani Mirio talk about his uncles ( Gino and Ellero). They went in Kilmarnock and he haven't news from 1957/58. Mirio is in contact with Matteucci's family in Camaiore. He met Margherita, dauther of one of his uncle, when she came in Italy.
I'm sure that we are from the same family. I and my father will be happy to write about family with you.
Ciao, Cristina :)
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby walshsierra » 05 Jun 2014, 21:41

Hi~

I am from the US and trying to track my grandmother's family. Her mother was Elizabetta Moriconi from Lucca, Italy and her father Vincenzo Del Polito. I was told her mother and sister stayed in Italy. Her sister's name is Pia Palagi. Would you have any information that would be helpful for me to track my ancestors?
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby walshsierra » 05 Jun 2014, 21:43

I also understand that when my grandmother's father Vincenzo Del Polito re-married a Dominica Leonetti. I have information on some of the US relatives on the Del Polito side but the Italy ones from Moriconi and Leonetti.
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Re: Trying to trace village in Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jun 2014, 13:19

walshsierra wrote:Hi~

I am from the US and trying to track my grandmother's family. Her mother was Elizabetta Moriconi from Lucca, Italy and her father Vincenzo Del Polito. I was told her mother and sister stayed in Italy. Her sister's name is Pia Palagi. Would you have any information that would be helpful for me to track my ancestors?


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Can you provide some dates of birth/marriage?

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