Jellistine Stelliane

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Jellistine Stelliane

Postby andrea_luikart » 05 Aug 2011, 21:29

I discovered a pedigree chart and on the chart it stated that my ancestor, Jellistine Stelliane left Italy to the United States.

It says that she died in 1900 in Chicago, Illinios.

Any help finding information would be very helpful.

Thank you!
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby johnnyonthespot » 05 Aug 2011, 23:38

As I mentioned in your other thread, both of these names are so badly corrupted that it is difficult to imagine what they might really have been.

Is this a handwritten document that you have? Perhaps if you could post it (or part of it), we might read it different;y.

You can use a site like http://postimage.org to upload the image file and then paste the "Thumbnail for forums (1)" link into a your reply here.
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby andrea_luikart » 06 Aug 2011, 04:18

I wish it was a handwritten document. The name is just typed in and all family charts I see have that name. I will have to do some more research and see if I can find her husband and if I can find him, that may give me more insight as to her true name. Thank you!
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Aug 2011, 20:53

For what it's worth... the first name could be "Celestina" - :)
The Italian pronunciation of the "C" would sound like "ch"

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Aug 2011, 20:58

I know this is a true LONGSHOT... :?

But nearest thing I could find with a death in Chicago...
Does the address ring a bell?


Name: Celestina Schoenfeld

Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 26 Mar 1899
Death Place: 3527 Wentworth Ave., Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Race (Original): White
Race (Standardized): White
Death Age: 50y
Estimated Birth Year: 1849
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status:
Spouse:
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Father:
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation: Housewife
Street Address:
Residence:
Cemetery: Calvary
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 29 Mar 1899
Funeral Home:
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Film Number: 1033065
Digital Folder Number: 4004342
Image Number: 571
Reference Number: cn 17866
Collection: Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1922

Marriage License in Chicago for the above... Maiden name SIMONI
Also mentions Church of Our Lady of Sorrow.

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Aug 2011, 21:00

Any children associated with "Jellistine?"

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby andrea_luikart » 06 Aug 2011, 21:57

Yes, her son is Michael Charles Cardio (although his name was changed from Carrione when he came to the USA). Her husband is Joseph Carrione but again, I assume his name is Guissepe since "J" isn't a letter in Italian.
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Aug 2011, 02:57

Do tell more about Michael.

Any idea as to the year of birth? How old was he when he came to the US? Did he come with his mother, or separately before/after she arrived?

Do you have any additional information regarding Joseph/Giuseppe?
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby pink67 » 07 Aug 2011, 16:48

Just for reference, the possible 1900 census for Michael Charles Cardio:


1900 United States Federal Census

Name: Charles Caldic[Charle Caldie]
Home in 1900: Atlantic, Cass, Iowa[Cass, Iowa]
Age: 35
Birth Date: Apr 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Christina Caldic
Marriage year: 1885
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 15
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Caldic 35, head, born in Italy on April 1865,
Christina Caldic 33
Ellen Caldic 14
John Caldic 12
Carl Caldic 11
Joseph Caldic 8
Ina Caldic 6
Frank Caldic 3
Gran* Caldic 1

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby pink67 » 07 Aug 2011, 17:26

and.. age is off but what about this record?


Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1922

Name: Giustina Carione
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 26 Apr 1900
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Female
Race (Original): W
Race (Standardized): White
Death Age: 80y
Estimated Birth Year: 1820
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status:
Spouse:
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Father:
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother:
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Street Address:
Residence:
Cemetery:
Calvary
Burial Place:
Burial Date:
Funeral Home:
Informant:
Additional Relatives:
Film Number:1033074
Digital Folder Number: 4004361
Image Number: 422
Reference Number: cn 2914

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ima ... %3D4910989

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Aug 2011, 20:12

Hey, Laura :-D

That looks promising!!! Nice find
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby andrea_luikart » 07 Aug 2011, 23:35

Pink67, that information on this Guistina Carione looks very good! I am going to find out more on this. Thank you!! The information found on Michael is correct. The last name of Michael was Cardio when he came to the USA but that information is all correct. Those are the names of his wife and children.

What I know about Michael is he was born in 1864 and left Italy for the USA around age 7 but family stories say it was without his parents. I have found some information about him but I am unaware as to where his parents died. I found one pedigree chart that says "Jellistine" passed away in Chicago but that is the first time I have heard she may have come to the USA. Thank you for your research!
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby andrea_luikart » 07 Aug 2011, 23:41

johnnyonthespot, I don't know anything more about Michael's parents, Joseph and Jellistine. I just know they lived in Italy, possibly in the village of Calvello in the province of Potenza, Basilicata region of southern Italy (which is the information you found for me.)

I know Michael came to the USA but I can't find his naturalization records.
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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby pink67 » 08 Aug 2011, 09:20

What I know about Michael is he was born in 1864 and left Italy for the USA around age 7 but family stories say it was without his parents


Then this may be a possible arrival for him.. this little boy was travelling with his brother? Marco/Mario Carrione 9 years old and apparently they were travelling alone, with no parents...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Michel Carrione
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1870
Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 7
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Place of Origin: Italy
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Nevada
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Search the Nevada in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

there are traces of Michael Carrione in the 1885 census for Iowa:


State Census Collection, 1836-1925

Name: Mitchell Cardio
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birth Place: Italy
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Census Date: 1885
Residence state: Iowa
Residence County: Cass
Locality: Atlantic
Roll: IA1885_159
Line: 11
Family Number: 182
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Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Moeller 28, hotel keeper
Emma Moeller22
Edward Moeller 4
Hattie Moeller 2
Arthur Moeller 4
Mitchell Cardio 21, clerk in hotel

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Re: Jellistine Stelliane

Postby trevisan2 » 08 Aug 2011, 19:29

Carrione = Cirone
I did a search on Italian Genealogy on the Surnames you are searching and found previous info.

the post is back a few years ago on the Carrione surname is perhaps Cirone
topic8619.html?hilit=carrione#p140640

It would be a good idea to PM the person that was doing the other searches on Carrione to compare notes, since the both of you are have ancestors from the same parish.

The immigration record on Giustina would be interesting to find or perhaps finding her and her husband in a census record.

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