Having difficulty finding any immigration records

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Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby zodda » 17 Apr 2012, 02:56

My grandparents immigrated to the U.S. in 1919 and 1920 respectively. I can not find any information on their arrival either at Ellis Island or Ancestry.com. I know that both came thru Ellis Island (but I did check other points of entry including Canada) and still having no luck. Where records kept in Italy for those who left the country? I'm at a lose and don't know what to do next. Thank you.
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby PippoM » 17 Apr 2012, 13:35

Italian surnames often are not correctly listed. Have you tried similar spellings? What are their names?
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby zodda » 22 Apr 2012, 22:00

Have tried every possible spelling variation that I can think of. The last name is Mazzariello (Michele angelo and Pasqualina). He came over by himself and she came later with 2 children. There is nothing about their arrivals anywhere.
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby Tessa78 » 22 Apr 2012, 22:21

zodda wrote:Have tried every possible spelling variation that I can think of. The last name is Mazzariello (Michele angelo and Pasqualina). He came over by himself and she came later with 2 children. There is nothing about their arrivals anywhere.


Do you know the names of the children?

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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby vj » 22 Apr 2012, 23:05

Tessa78 wrote:
zodda wrote:Have tried every possible spelling variation that I can think of. The last name is Mazzariello (Michele angelo and Pasqualina). He came over by himself and she came later with 2 children. There is nothing about their arrivals anywhere.


Do you know the names of the children?

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Hey T :D !
This may help.
'Zodda',
Is this the correct 1930 census?
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from ancestry. com
http://imageshack.us/a/img267/1296/1930m.jpg

Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
Michele Mazzariello 38 Pasqualina Mazzariello 38 Joseph Mazzariello 13 Concetta Mazzariello 11 Pasqualina Mazzariello 9 Luigi Mazzariello 7 Frank Mazzariello 4 Marie Mazzariello 3 Nancie Mazzariello 2
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby Tessa78 » 22 Apr 2012, 23:09

Hi, Valarie! :-)

Thanks, that will give us some other options...
Joseph (Giuseppe?) and Concetta both born in Italy...
Maybe we can find a manifest for them?

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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby vj » 22 Apr 2012, 23:56

Hey T!
I'm not having any luck finding a manifest
I think Joseph was born abt 1914 according to SSDI?
All from Avellino except Pasqualina from Brazil???
Pasqualina's maiden name might help.
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby vj » 23 Apr 2012, 00:55

T,
I think Pasqualina's maiden name was Catalina
born 1893 Brazil
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From a private family page on ancestry:

'Mazzariello Family Tree
Personal Member Tree'
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby zodda » 23 Apr 2012, 03:18

Yes, Pasqualina was born in Sao Paolo in 1892. I have all the census records (which are all correct with names of family) and still can not find immigration (boats name etc.) The two born in Italy were Guiseppe and Concetta (Joseph and Constance), nothing on them either. Pasqualina's maiden name was Catalina, I have info like wedding certificates, etc just no manifests.
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby Tessa78 » 23 Apr 2012, 04:24

vj wrote:Hey T!
I'm not having any luck finding a manifest
I think Joseph was born abt 1914 according to SSDI?
All from Avellino except Pasqualina from Brazil???
Pasqualina's maiden name might help.
Valarie


Hi Valarie! :D

Likewise... no luck with manifests - OR - border crossings :(
Tried Joseph/Giuseppe, but nothing that looks right.

Will join in the search for Pasqualina Catalina manifest...

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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby vj » 23 Apr 2012, 16:27

zodda wrote:... I have info like wedding certificates ...

Thank you for the update :D
Do you have their town of origin in Italy?
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby zodda » 23 Apr 2012, 16:43

Cervinara (part of Avellino).
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby vj » 23 Apr 2012, 17:46

I've had no luck either.
Tried partial first names w/o surnames
Tried searching Ellis using Cervinara (& Cerv*) as a town of origin
Stumped
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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby Biff83 » 23 Apr 2012, 19:16

Okay guys what do you make of this 1920 did not sail manifest? Weird coincidence?
Children's first names and ages correct per 1930 census.
Pasqua(lina)'s yob correct; maiden name almost exact.
Town correct.

Page 1

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0020

Page 2

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0020

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Re: Having difficulty finding any immigration records

Postby Tessa78 » 23 Apr 2012, 20:33

Wow, Biff!!!

That really does look like the right family...yet the children have another surname. Of course, that could very well be an error (or are they children of a previous marriage?)
There is a Giuseppe Ragosta on the line above Pasqua - :?: :?:

Maybe we can find the ship on which they actually DID sail - using surname Ragosta? :-)

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