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Re: Need Input Please

Postby jmac » 25 Apr 2005, 01:34

Jim not only continues to help me but his Carini Exchange site is awesome!! All those wonderful records online is amazing. Bless him and his work!
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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 25 Apr 2005, 04:04

Aw...thanks guys for the compliments :)

Janet I can't seem to get at that 1907 manifest. When you do a search, it finds it, but then takes you to this manifest full of germanic or scandanavian people. I tried 20 pages either way and that darn manifest wouldnt end!! Oh and another thing, there was only ONE Emmanuele Gallina that every arrived into Ellis Island, and given the fact that Vito would have had a brother with that name, and the year is just too perfect (just three years after Vito's...I can't help but think this 1913 Emmanuele is his brother) If you could possibly send me a copy of the 1907 manifest I will look at it, or even better find it on the Ellis Island site and send me the link.

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby mfjp » 25 Apr 2005, 04:44

Hi jmac and James...

jmac wrote:
On the 1907 manifest, Vito lists another brother-in-law in Brooklyn but I can't make out the name...looks like Antonio Badafomin. Could I call on your expertise to identify that name? Can't make out the address either.


James might be able to figure out surname... :P and the address :P

This manifest was an Ellis site mis-link... (Russian immigrants...)
Here's a new link for it.

http://img161.echo.cx/img161/561/vito1qi.jpg

First Name: Vito
Last Name: Gallina
Ethnicity: Italy Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Casini
Date of Arrival: May 06, 1907
Age at Arrival:  32y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  S  
Ship of Travel: Cretic
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0005


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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 25 Apr 2005, 06:20

ah..Badalmenti/Badalmente looks like Antonino.

The last name is definitely right tho. Clear as day to me. Very common in Carini.
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Re: Need Input Please

Postby mfjp » 25 Apr 2005, 06:41

:? The address... 353 Hicks Street??

Oh ya... clear as day to me too :?

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 25 Apr 2005, 06:44

Now what to do with this info...
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Re: Need Input Please

Postby mfjp » 25 Apr 2005, 06:52

I guess jmac has to tell us which Vito Gallina sister married Antonio Badalmenti?

Well... here's another manifest of interest...

There are many Badalmenti's here travelling as a family.... US citizens too.

There is an Antonio Badalmenti on this list (husband)

First Name: Givachina (Gioachina??) wife...
Last Name: Badalmenti
Ethnicity: U.S.A.
Last Place of Residence: New York, N.Y.
Date of Arrival: October 14, 1910
Age at Arrival:  37y    Gender:  F    Marital Status:  M  
Ship of Travel: Konig Albert
Port of Departure: Palermo
Manifest Line Number: 0009
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http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0196%2ETIF

Look at those poor surnames... you'd think that the transcriber could have stuck to one version of the name...

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0008.  Badalamenti, Antonio M 36y M U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0009.  Badalmenti, Givachina F 37y M U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0010.  Badalamewti, Bidgia F 8y S U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0011.  Badalamewti, Pietina F 5y S U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0012.  , Guiseppe F 3y 8m S U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0013.  Badalamewti, Antonio M 2w S U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
0014.  Badalamewti, Giaeouis M 2m S U.S.A. New York, N.Y.
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Re: Need Input Please

Postby jmac » 25 Apr 2005, 06:55

JamesBianco wrote:ah..Badalmenti/Badalmente looks like Antonino.

The last name is definitely right tho. Clear as day to me. Very common in Carini.


Oh, sorry Jim, I forgot that that 1907 manifest was a bad link...it took me a long time, page by page to finally get to the right manifest. Thanks mfjp, for sending the correct link.

Now what to do with the info.....guess I'll see if I can find this guy on the census and when he immigrated.

Jim, I sent you a message on the yahoo forum earlier. I'm having trouble accessing the 1629 - 1660 extractions. Don't know if it's me or my computer. Would appreciate a suggestion. Thanks.

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 25 Apr 2005, 06:58

You are still having trouble with the file? I will email it to you. Check your Yahoo email when u get the chance.
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Re: Need Input Please

Postby jmac » 25 Apr 2005, 08:26

JamesBianco wrote:You are still having trouble with the file? I will email it to you. Check your Yahoo email when u get the chance.



Thanks Jim, I got the e-mail. Now I've got more work to do. :)

As far as Emmanuele Gallina is concerned, I think you are probably right, it must be Grandpa Gallina's brother. Guess I can't prove it though until I can get hold of some Carini baptisms between 1875 and 1880.

I saw all those Badalmenti immigrants and even found them on the census, but it doesn't tell me anything either. Oh well, maybe some day all the pieces will fall together.

Thanks again for everybody's help.

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 27 Apr 2005, 04:28

jmac wrote:
JamesBianco wrote:You are still having trouble with the file? I will email it to you. Check your Yahoo email when u get the chance.




As far as Emmanuele Gallina is concerned, I think you are probably right, it must be Grandpa Gallina's brother. Guess I can't prove it though until I can get hold of some Carini baptisms between 1875 and 1880.
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well..you could prove it by taking a look at this 1901 Carini marriage :wink:

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby jmac » 27 Apr 2005, 07:38

Oh Jim, you did it! You proved another sibling!! I am soooo happy. I'm not too good at this Latin stuff, I can just barely pick out the names. Could I pester you to give me a translation so I know if I read the names right? You are such a dear! How can I ever repay you? Bet you sleep good at night knowing how you are helping so many people. :D
Thank you. thank you, thank you!

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 27 Apr 2005, 07:58

Janet...at the middle you will see the groom and bride listed

here is the vital info:

8 Feb 1901

Emmanuele Gallina, son of Angelo (Gallina) & Grazia Sciarrino
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Filippa Buffa, dau of Francesco (Buffa) & Anna Ingargiola

I really hope you are able to locate his descendants.

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby VaDeb » 27 Apr 2005, 08:08

Jim,
I have found the church records you have been posting very educational. I haven't jumped into church records yet. They look rather intimadating though. Another language to learn, Latin. Oh no.

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Re: Need Input Please

Postby JamesBianco » 27 Apr 2005, 08:36

VaDeb wrote:Jim,
I have found the church records you have been posting very educational. I haven't jumped into church records yet. They look rather intimadating though. Another language to learn, Latin. Oh no.

Debbie


great! Latin is not that difficult to learn. At least in terms of finding the important information from the records. It is a necessity before 1808/1809/1820(sicily)1865(Northern Italy) if we want to trace further back than the Stato records. Now that I have experience with the Sicilian church records, I wish I could get farther back on my Provincia di Isernia lines. The Catholic church in Mainland Italy does not seem to be cooperating with the LDS church. That is truly sad.

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