Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

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Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby puglisigeraci » 17 Jan 2014, 00:59

Antonina Geraci was born in Lipari in 1887
I found an address of Piazza Mazzini,1-98055, Lipari, Italy

Basilio Puglisi's info from a us census states he was from Brolo,Messina, Sicily born 1865 or 1864
I am not sure where to write for his long form.

Is it proper to send along some cash, since I have to pay for my grandparents and parents certificates here in the states?
Thanks so much for your help, my son who vacationed in Italy last year has really caught the bug to get dual citizenship
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby adelfio » 17 Jan 2014, 20:24

INDEX#6
1864 Jan 19th born recorded on the 20th in the town of Brolo birth of Basilio Puglisi son of Giuseppe Puglisi and Carmela Busacca

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Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Brolo
Via Dante
98061 Brolo (ME)
Italy
OGGETTO: Richiesta esito di atti di nascita di Basilio Puglisi di Giuseppe Puglisi e Carmela Busacca il 1864 (Num.d'Ordine#5) di ottenere la cittadinanza italiana

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Il mio nome e`YOURNAME. Sono un cittadino americano discendente da Italiani
La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per ottenere il Vostro aiuto, poiche mi necessita l’estratto dell’atto di nascita, in formato internazionale di:Basilio Puglisi di Giuseppe a nato Brolo il gennaro 19 1864
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby adelfio » 17 Jan 2014, 21:37

You might have the wrong info for Antonina Geraci was born in Lipari in 1887
I checked Lipari records no record that date I know that what it says on this record

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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby puglisigeraci » 18 Jan 2014, 00:26

Thank you so much Adelfio for your help. My son found Antonina's birth name as Della Chiesa on that date in Lipari, but when she came over with her 5 sisters and mom ( no dad Della Chiesa) her last name was listed as Geraci. Antonina then married Basilio Puglisi, had my grandfather Guiseppe in 1911. Basilio passed in 1916 when my grandfather guiseppe was 5. So far we have "No records" from USCIS and NARA. I now just have to get it from Manhattan and Bronx county courthouses for Basilio and I think we will be in good shape for Jure Sanguinis. Mille grazie per il suo aiuto!
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby adelfio » 18 Jan 2014, 17:02

puglisigeraci wrote:Thank you so much Adelfio for your help. My son found Antonina's birth name as Della Chiesa on that date in Lipari, but when she came over with her 5 sisters and mom ( no dad Della Chiesa) her last name was listed as Geraci. Antonina then married Basilio Puglisi, had my grandfather Guiseppe in 1911. Basilio passed in 1916 when my grandfather guiseppe was 5. So far we have "No records" from USCIS and NARA. I now just have to get it from Manhattan and Bronx county courthouses for Basilio and I think we will be in good shape for Jure Sanguinis. Mille grazie per il suo aiuto!

You know I looked at the birth act for Antonina Della Chiesa daughter of Domenico Della Chiesa and Antonia Caira did you know she had a twin sister Concetta Della Chiesa the following entry with the same parents
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 2041024616

How did you come up with Della Chiesa meaning no dad for Antonina for Della Chiesa is a surname from Lipari

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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby Tessa78 » 18 Jan 2014, 17:07

Here is the birth record of Antonina Della Chiesa in 1887 in Lipari (record #45)

She is a TWIN to Concetta Della Chiesa  (record #46)

Antonina
Record #45
Dated 6 February 1887, born 5 February.
Mother: Antonia Caia, laborer, wife of
Father: Domenico Della Chiesa, 30, cooper/barrel maker
She was presented to the official by the midwife Concetta Virgona, 19.
Given the name ANTONINA, twin

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 2041024616

Concetta
Record #46
Same information.
Given the name CONCETTA, twin to the preceeding birth.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 2041024616

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Hi Marty, sorry for the duplication! :-)
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby puglisigeraci » 18 Jan 2014, 17:33

I went over my son's house yesterday and he showed me a ships manifest he found online showing Antonia Della Chiesa and 6 girls with the same last name after hers on the list. There was no Domenico Della Chiesa's name with theirs on the same page. I did not mean that Della Chiesa meant "no father", I just meant that no father with that surname was listed on the manifest. I started looking into genealogy way back in 1987 - fascinated with it. A few days ago, my son, who fell in LOVE with Cinque Terra, asked for me to help him gain Jure sanguinis I found my stash of paperwork and found a letter from Camille Puglisi, my grandfathers Guiseppes sister. She had hand written that Antonina - their mother, was one of 7 sisters, was a twin and that one of the sisters died either at birth or as an infant. Aunt Camille actually wrote that Antoninas last name was Geraci - we had never heard of Della Chiesa until my son found the same birth record and the ships manifest online yesterday. I often wondered where "Daniel" came from since it did not seem to be an Itaian name. Thanks you guys for your help, I dont know if I would have ever uncovered the actual birth info with the different last name.
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby puglisigeraci » 22 Jan 2014, 23:24

The letter I had from my great aunt mentioned a twin, but did not remember the name. Thanks for your help, I do not know why I did not get an e-mail alerting me to te additonal answers form you. So I am sorry I am late with my thanks. BUT NOW the Post office does not sell Irc's anymore. Fedex wants $89 each way for postage!! Post office would charge $45 each way using fedex ( I know, makes no sense) Since I have two - one for Basilio in Brolo and one for Antonina in Lipari we are talking a minimum of $180. Is there any other way to do this? Or should I just pay a company at this point?
Thanks again for any help you may be able to lend, I will check this site in case someone posts.
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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby adelfio » 22 Jan 2014, 23:53

Just send regular mail no money with self addressed return envelope no stamp they will pay for the postage

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Brolo
Via Dante
98061 Brolo (ME)
Italy
OGGETTO: Richiesta esito di atti di nascita di Basilio Puglisi di Giuseppe Puglisi e Carmela Busacca il 1864 (Num.d'Ordine#5) di ottenere la cittadinanza italiana

Gentilissima Signora, Gentile Signore,
Il mio nome e`YOURNAME. Sono un cittadino americano discendente da Italiani
La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per ottenere il Vostro aiuto, poiche mi necessita l’estratto dell’atto di nascita, in formato internazionale di:Basilio Puglisi di Giuseppe a nato Brolo il gennaro 19 1864
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.
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UFFICIO DI ANAGRAFE
Comune di Lipari
Piazza Mazzini, 1
98055 Lipari (ME)
Italy

OGGETTO: Richiesta esito di atti di nascita di Antonina Della Chiesa di Domenico Della Chiesa e Antonia Caira il 1887 (Num.d'Ordine#45) di ottenere la cittadinanza italiana
Gentilissima Signora, Gentile Signore,
Il mio nome e`YOURNAME. Sono un cittadino americano discendente da Italiani
La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di spese di riproduzione e postali per ottenere il Vostro aiuto, poiche mi necessita l’estratto dell’atto di nascita, in formato internazionale di:Antonina Della Chiesa a nato Lipari il Feb 5 1887
Se non avete i registri corrispondenti, potete fornire l’indirizzo dell’archivio dove in cui i registri possano essere trovati?
Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.
YOUR NAME ADDRESS EMAIL PHOTO ID

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Re: Need 2 birth certificates for great grandparents

Postby puglisigeraci » 23 Jan 2014, 00:11

Thanks marty!!
I can't believe they would do all that for nothing! It has cost me hundreds already to get the subsequent marriage, birth and death certificates form NY and Fl. I have been fretting about this all weekend, run to two different post offices and fedex. MILLE GRAZIE!!
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