Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

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Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 08:51

Hi,
I am trying to locate birth or death certificates for my grandfather Leonardo Mini. He was born in Carini (I think). I do know he died in Carini around 1945-1946. Also trying to locate birth/death certificates for his wife Francesca. She died around the same time. They also had 2 daughters that died, I believe, after them. I was told that Carini did not issue birth or death certificates around that time. Does anybody know if this is true, or where I can obtain any information? Thank you so much!
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby JamesBianco » 08 May 2005, 12:41

Could you give more specifics on your grandfather? I maintain a Carini Research site, Yahoo Group and Forum. I also have the complete church marriage records from 1568-1891.

The Carini Exchange

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Carini Genealogy Forum

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby ricbru » 08 May 2005, 19:57

Hello,
if you need death record of your ancestor, you can't have it before 70 years from the death (1945+70=2015), because the italian law say that.
If you need birth record, it is easier because I guess your ancestor was born more than 70 years ago.
So I suggest to contact Cemetery of Carini

Mr. Giambanco Massimo
manager of burial service to Carini Cemetery
cell.phone +39 329.7974499

He may help you and tell in what part of cemetery your ancestor is buried, when he died, age at death, name of father of death ancestor, job of death ancestor.

I hope it helps, bye ricbru
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby ricbru » 08 May 2005, 20:12

I can't find the address of cemetery of Carini, this is the email of mayor of Carini, maybe it helps, bye ricbru

sindaco@comune.carini.pa.it
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 20:55

Thanks for all your answers.
As far as the marriage certificate, I do have a copy of that. My grandfather, Leonardo Mini, married my grandmother, Francesca Cucuzza
in 1925. I cannot make out the actual date. I know he came to the US for the first time April 19, 1910 on a ship named the Lazio. I do have that document. There is no record of his entry into Ellis Island. I think I read somewhere that that ship may have entered at Boston, but cannot get those records. He became a US citizen in 1922. I know he came back and forth between the 2 countries several times. My main interest is copies of death certificates to find out when and how my grandparents and my 2 aunts (my father's sisters) passed away. I will try to email the mayor of Carini to see if he can get me the address of the Carini cemetery. Thank you again for your help!
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby mfjp » 08 May 2005, 21:10

I think I read somewhere that that ship may have entered at Boston, but cannot get those records.


Boston is right.... !

I will get them for you!

Just hang on... am creating a link for that boat record!!

Name:   Leonardo Mini
Arrival Date:   19 Apr 1910
Age:   21 years
Estimated Birth Year:   1889
Gender:   Male
Ethnic Background:   Italian (South)
Port of Departure:   Palermo, Italy
Ship Name:   Lazio
Port of Arrival:   Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name:   Giambanco
Last Residence:   Sicily
Birthplace:   Carini, Palermo
Microfilm Roll Number:   147

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 21:26

Thank you thank you thank you so much! That is awesome information!
Is that taken from the ship's manifest? I really appreciate it.

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 21:29

I just saw the manifest. That is the best information! Thank you once again!
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 21:38

Do you know if there is anyway I can print this where I can view the whole page? I was trying to see if I could show my dad today. Everytime I try printing it, it just shows a portion of the page.
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby mfjp » 08 May 2005, 21:41

Is that taken from the ship's manifest?


That is a copy of the actual manifest... hope I understood well... :P

The text information I posted above of Leonardo's information was a transcription done by "who knows...?" so... there are probably spelling errors here and there... which is common.

If Francesca made it to the USA, were you able to find her manifest?

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby mfjp » 08 May 2005, 21:43

Send me a private message and I will email you the jpeg file.

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 21:48

No Francesca never made it to the US. She stayed in Carini with the kids. There were 5 total. Leonardo would come to the US to work so he could save money to bring the family here. He finally had earned enough, so he went back to Sicily to get the family,but then WWII broke out, so they couldn't leave Sicily. I think they passed away either before the war ended or just after. The 3 remaining kids then each came here on their own when they were old enough. I know my father was 15 when he finally made it here. But they were born US citizens, so they had to get here before a certain age or lose their citizenship.
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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby mfjp » 08 May 2005, 21:49

Just thought of something... the jpeg files...

These pages are about 30" wide... you may have to "tile" these when you print...

Or maybe print at 40% and use legal size paper? 8..5 x 14 to get that page on one sheet...

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Re: Surname: Mini from Carini, Sicily

Postby minibutt » 08 May 2005, 21:51

i will try both ways and see how it works. Thanks!
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