Guatieri Family History

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Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 11 May 2005, 14:14

I am trying to find some history on Michael Guatieri(my great-grandfather) who emigrated to the UK in the 1890's. He came from Gorizia and thats about all I know.In the 1901 UK census he was recorded as being 32 years old and living in Bristol. I believe he originally lived in London. If anybody can help I would greatly appeciste it.

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Postby ricbru » 11 May 2005, 16:59

Hello,
I can see your ancestor was born around 1858-1859. You can start asking the birth certificate of Michael (I guess Michele) Guatieri to civil records office of Gorizia (are you sure he was from Gorizia, or was he from a village in Gorizia area?)

This is the list of comunes belonging to Gorizia province

http://www.comuni-italiani.it/031/comuni.html

This is Gorizia State Archive, where you may find civil record of all comunes of Gorizia province

http://wwwdb.archivi.beniculturali.it/S ... GORIZIA%22

if you are sure he was born in Gorizia, contact Gorizia civil records office

Municipio
Ufficio Anagrafe
Piazza del Municipio, 1
34170 Gorizia (GO)

urp@comune.gorizia.it

if you are not able to write italian, this is a web site that helps you to write the request

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... /index.asp

I hope it helps, bye ricbru

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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby suanj » 11 May 2005, 18:47

sidtindall wrote:I am trying to find some history on Michael Guatieri(my great-grandfather) who emigrated to the UK in the 1890's. He came from Gorizia and thats about all I know.In the 1901 UK census he was recorded as being 32 years old and living in Bristol. I believe he originally lived in London. If anybody can help I would greatly appeciste it.

Hi, are an Michael(Michele )Gualtieri born in 1869 in 1901 census.. is possible that the just surname is Gualtieri?
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 25 May 2005, 08:39

It appears after contacting the Gorizia Council, that my family does not originate from this area. The only other place they could of come from would be the Campobasso area but I do not have anything more specific. Maybe someone out there may have some knowledge of this area and point me in the right direction.

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Postby suanj » 25 May 2005, 11:24

I' live in Campobasso area( Molise region).. and here are:
- Guatieri (now Isernia province, but in the past all area was Campobasso province only)
-and Gualtieri (all Molise)
and some data:

Births Dec 1900
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Guatieri Agostino Bristol 6a 70

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Births Mar 1902
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Guatieri Rosa Bristol 6a 78

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Births Jun 1903
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Guatieri Catarina Diflorio Southwark 1d 120

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Births Jun 1905
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Guatieri Luigi Bristol 6a 82

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Births Mar 1907
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Guatieri Caroline Maud Bristol 6a 71

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Births Sep 1908
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Guatieri Ellen Martha Bristol 6a 71
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sound just some first name?
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 30 May 2005, 18:22

Thanks, . Luigi Guatieri born in June 1905 is my grandfather. The other names are children of Michele Guatieri and Ellen Taylor. I have another two children being born in London UK in 1890. One was Angelo and one was Maria. Angelo was born and died in 1890 and Maria was born late in 1890 and died in 1893. They were also children of my great grandfather but to a woman named Alexander (maiden name Porella)Guatieri. I don't know what happened to Alexander but I only have records of my grandfather Luigis brothers and sisters. Regards Lynne

The first two children, Angelo and Maria were born in St george, Camberwell, County of London when Michele was living at 7 Southampton Street, Camberwell and he was registered as occupation fruiterer.

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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 12 Jul 2005, 17:54

:P After some more research it seems that my great grandfather came from a wealthy family in Florence. He was holidaying in the UK in the late 1880s when he decided to stay. He was supposed to be travelling with a brother who may have also stayed in the UK.

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Postby suanj » 12 Jul 2005, 18:38

sidtindall wrote::P After some more research it seems that my great grandfather came from a wealthy family in Florence. He was holidaying in the UK in the late 1880s when he decided to stay. He was supposed to be travelling with a brother who may have also stayed in the UK.

: :D I'm happy for your search progress..!
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Postby sidtindall » 01 Aug 2005, 16:17

Well I haven't been able to actually locate the origin of the Guatieri name, or the birth place of my great grandfather. I have had a message from one person who has told me that there were'nt any Guatieri's in Florence and that the name may have been Gualtieri and has been altered over the years. I would still like to find the birth place of Michelle whether it be Guatieri or Gualtieri and any ancestors he may have had. I have also been told that the Alexander (or Angela) Porella was Spanish not Italian, and they actually met in London whilst studying in 1885. I hope someone out there may have some more info for me. Thanks Sidtindall

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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby suanj » 01 Aug 2005, 16:31

most probable your ancestors came from Molise region.. for an good search is necessary to descover almost father first name, or mother surname.. Michele seems born abt in 1869; the other names in my previous posting really could be original from molise region( Isernia or Campobasso area), regards, suanj
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby suanj » 01 Aug 2005, 19:02

Hi: is possible that ,in Bristol, Michele had an sister Concetta called? please let me know...suanj
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 02 Aug 2005, 17:09

I will try and find out if he had a sister Concetta. Was she married or was she single and still a Guatieri? Michele's actual birthdate was 6th June 1868, but I have no idea what his parents names were.Thank you for your help.

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Postby suanj » 02 Aug 2005, 17:25

I found in 1901 that in Bristol living also Auguste (Augusto) Guatieri, mistaken Guadieri, born in 1828 musician, living with the daughter Concetta married to Angelantonio FUNDA...no data about italian birthplace... but from an first search, this Guatieri surname really existin, also in Italy as you know, well about Guatieri emigrated in UK, also if the surname are mistaken on ancestry, well, this people came from ROMA, PISTOIA(probable Pescia town in Pistoia province), NAPOLI and " Pians Dell Agottie, Italy"(???mistaken)..
Why you think that your Michael could be born in Campobasso province?regards, suanj
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby suanj » 02 Aug 2005, 17:27

I think that this Auguste Guatieri could be the grandfather of Augustine Guatieri born in Bristol in 1900:

Name: Augustine Guadieri
Age: 73
Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Father-in-law
Household: View other family members
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy

Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiatical parish: St James
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England



Name: Guatieri, Agostino
Record Type: Births
Quarter: December
Year: 1900
District: Bristol
County: Avon Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 70 (click to see others on page)
personally I think that your ancestor came from Roma area...
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Re: Guatieri Family History

Postby sidtindall » 02 Aug 2005, 18:02

The only reason I thought they were from that region was that there seemed to be alot of them still living there. As I said in the first place we did not know the history of where Michael cam from but I agree with you in the fact that this Augustine may well be Michelle's father. Why do you think they may have come from the Roma area?


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