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ancesterrs arrival

Postby lag031 » 01 Jun 2005, 04:37

my grandfather carmine ruggiero arrived in ny in 1921 my grandmother



louisa ruggiero and her daughter

maria arrived in boston in september 1927 how can i find out what ship they were on and a record of their arrival? thanks for your help lag031
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby VaDeb » 01 Jun 2005, 05:40

NY 1921 is Ellis Island. YOu can search for the arrival here (you have to register to see the manifests, but it is free)
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html
http://www.ellisisland.org/

Boston arrival in 1927 is available from Ancestry.com This database is a paid subscription. YOu can use it for free at Family History Centers of the LDS church and many lilbraries also have it. Women usually traveled under their maiden names. In Italy they did not loose this idenity. YOu may need to check maiden and married name.

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Have you found your family on the 1930 census?
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby suanj » 01 Jun 2005, 16:27

Carmine, coming from Ogliastro (Ogliastro Cilento-Salerno province), wife Luisa, joining Fiorentino brother, already in USA from 1910-1915,
http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0415%2ETIF


this is the first travel, and really Carmine came in Boston in 1911, contact in Italy : Antonio father.... http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 0130%2ETIF

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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby mfjp » 01 Jun 2005, 18:08

maria arrived in boston in september 1927 how can i find out what ship they were on and a record of their arrival? thanks for your help lag031Back to top


Ellis Island records online are from 1892 to 1924...

Re: Louisa (is maiden name Ruggiero???) and daughter Maria...

There are a few Maria Ruggiero coming through Boston Harbor, but not 1927. Can you provide a birth year for Maria?... and if she had a middle name, please provide.

Boston Harbor records are from 1891-1943

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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby lag031 » 05 Jun 2005, 19:07

maria ruggiero was born november 4, 1920 i have her passport in my hands it looks like they left naples august 12,1927 this is stamped on the other stamp is september 10,1927 cant read much of anything else other than names and boston,ma. louise ruggiero mother maiden name santangelo lag031
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby lag031 » 05 Jun 2005, 19:13

i have part of carmine passport the only thing that is readable a puple stamped date march 2, 1921 then another one in dark blue stamped new york march 31,1921 but the words that are in dark blue are in italian thanks lag031
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby ricbru » 05 Jun 2005, 19:23

Hello,
here there is a web site about people of Cilento are that left as emigrant

http://www.alfonsotoscano.it/AEC-1.htm

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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby lag031 » 10 Jun 2005, 05:16

the name fiorentino could it mean frank in english? i just found out my grandfather carmines brother frank lived here in the usa thanks for your help lag031
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby wldspirit » 10 Jun 2005, 09:31

Perhaps this website will help......
http://www.behindthename.com/nmc/ita.html
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby suanj » 10 Jun 2005, 10:35

lag031 wrote:the name fiorentino could it mean frank in english? i just found out my grandfather carmines brother frank lived here in the usa thanks for your help lag031

Fiorentino : mean " from/of Florence" ; Frank is Francesco diminutive =Franco
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby mfjp » 10 Jun 2005, 19:45

GGGood news... a manifest does exist for Fiorentino "Rugggiero"

First Name: Fiorentino
Last Name: Rugggiero (as transcribed....)
Ethnicity: Italy Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Ogliastro, Italy
Date of Arrival: June 13, 1913
Age at Arrival:  18y    Gender:  M    Marital Status:  S  
Ship of Travel: San Giovanni
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0013

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0568%2ETIF

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http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0568%2ETIF

Mentions that his mother in Italy is a Maria Esposito... and father Antonio is already in the USA

suanj posted a manifest of a Carmine earlier on who was going to join his brother Fiorentino.

Also... I checked the ships that arrived in August and September 1927 that Ancestry .com has in their Boston Harbor data bases... unfortunately, the SS Conte Rosso ships manifests are not included for that period... I know someone once contacted the Boston Archives... and was able to get a copy of the manifest that we couldn't find through Ancestry...

http://www.kinshipsprints.com/catalog/s ... erosso.htm
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Re: ancesterrs arrival

Postby Essgee » 17 Jun 2005, 21:44

Here is the census info for 1930:

In 1930 listed as Carmine Ruggiore living at 618 Saratoga Street. Renting house. ED 13-6, page 9A Boston City, Suffolk, Massachusetts

Ruggiore, Carmine, age 37, married at 27, born Italy, arrived 1910,
naturalized, laborer, road builder
--------, Louise, age 39, married at 28, born Italy, arrived 1927,
alien
--------, Mary, age 9, born Italy, arrived 1927, naturalized
--------, Eva, age 1y 4 months, born Massachusetts.

Could find no arrival info per Boston manifests. Not by first name only, last names, partial last names, meeting Carmine, age only, everyone from Italy. If she had been in the US before, chances are she was with Carmine in Boston...hence the marking of Boston on the passport. It might not indicate port of arrival.

Contact the NARA in Waltham via e-mail. They may be able to help locate the paperwork. Go to NARA.gov and look for the link. Good Luck.
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