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NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby kencwalker » 14 May 2016, 17:16

Looking for advice from those who have used NARA to get naturalization records.
How much information do they need for a successful search?

I have my grandparents names, birth dates, and arrival dates at Ellis Island.
I DO NOT have their Declaration of Intent, Petition or Naturalization Certificate #s.
I have limited info on their Naturalization from later Ellis Island arrivals after gaining US Citizenship.
For my GF, it lists court, date and a number (maybe petition or certificate number?).
For my GM, it only lists court and date.
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Is this enough info for NARA to conduct a successful search?

Thanks in advance.
-Ken
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Postby adelfio » 14 May 2016, 22:22

Battista Pedroncelli

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Postby kencwalker » 14 May 2016, 23:53

Thanks Marty,
Welcome to the wonderful world of Battista Pedroncelli. There are a lot of them. :)
Ancestry search played a trick on you. Unfortunately, that's not my Battista.
Both lived in Madesimo, but mine was born in Verceia in 1896, immigrated in Dec-1920 and lived in Dunsmuir, Siskiyou County, CA when he Naturalized in 1928.
I know, so close...
Also, I really want my GM's info!
Thanks!
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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby sacesta » 17 May 2016, 04:26

Ken,
Today I received my grandfather's Certificate of Arrival, Declaration of Intent and Petition for Naturalization. It took only one working day to get the records from NARA. Impressive!

Required info is:

The city and state in which the naturalization occurred
A date range
Petitioner's first and last name
Petitioner's year of birth
The city and county in which petitioner resided at time of naturalization

Additional information is optional and includes:

Petitioner's country of origin
Petitioner's approximate date of arrival in the US
Petitioner's full date of birth
Spouse's name
Name of issuing court
Petition number
Volume
Page

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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby kencwalker » 17 May 2016, 15:42

Hi Steve,
Yes, Impressive! That was fast, and for only $7.50 per search?
I assume they emailed electronic documents.
Are these sufficient for 1948 cases? (don't need to be certified)

Good news: I have all of the required info, and only missing the last 3 optional items.
Thanks, this is a big help!
-Ken
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Postby sacesta » 17 May 2016, 15:46

Ken,
I'm not sure what a 1948 case is. I'm not doing this for citizenship (although lately I am giving some thought to it).

The cost is increased now to $10, but still a good deal. I got the Certificate of Arrival, Declaration of Intent, and Petition for Naturalization. And I got them within one working day!

I had the documents emailed to me as a pdf, but you can have hard copies mailed if you prefer.

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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby sacesta » 17 May 2016, 15:48

This link will get you there….

http://www.archives.gov/research/genealogy/
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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby kencwalker » 17 May 2016, 20:52

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the link. I've been to the NARA site, just haven't spent much time investigating their services. I lucked out with 2 great-gfs. I found naturalization papers for one on Ancestry, and the petition/declaration #s for a second. With that info, an acquaintance was able to locate his papers at the San Bruno, CA NARA location. This is the first time I need to use NARA to locate the papers. And for $10, what a deal!

I stumbled on the "1948 Case with Luigi Paiano " thread in this forum. It captured my imagination. As I understand, the 1948 Italian constitution legalized "jure sanguinis" citizenship from one's mother (by ancestry).

My GF naturalized before my mother was born. So, prior to 1948, based on GF's US citizenship, she was only a US citizen. My GM naturalized after her birth. The "1948 case" is a legal procedure to petition for Italian citizenship. However, it's not cheap or easy.

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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby sacesta » 17 May 2016, 21:38

Glad you're finding records Ken.

If I understand you correctly, the 1948 case doesn't apply to me. My grandfather naturalized after my father was born. Not sure yet whether I will pursue Italian citizenship.

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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby kencwalker » 18 May 2016, 00:25

Steve,
I think 2 cases apply to your situation.
The 1948 law comes into play if you had an GM or mother that held Italian citizenship when you were born.
In 1912, Italy changed their law about a parent renouncing his citizenship. So, since your GF naturalized after your father was born, your father had to formally renounce his Italian citizenship as an adult (assuming his birth was after 1912).
There's more in the 1948/Luigi Paiano thread if you want to read through that. :)
And, there's another website mentioned in that thread that discusses this in far more detail.
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Re: NARA Naturalization reqeust

Postby sacesta » 18 May 2016, 04:56

Ok,thanks. BTW, the Petition Number mentioned in my first reply above is required for the NARA search, not optional.
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