Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby gaylest » 14 Mar 2006, 16:04

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Can anyone please help me with departure ports for emigration in about 1875. I have searched every database available looking for immigration of my Italian ancestors but to no avail, I have noticed that many ships carrying Italians to Australia or New Zealand have come from Hamburg, was this the norm? I have yet to encounter any ships that left Italian ports during this time to go to Australia or NZ. My relatives lived in Tuscany, would people generally travel to Hamburg or maybe England? Hope someone can help.
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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby suanj » 14 Mar 2006, 19:57

yes: Hamburg was the norm... regards, suanj
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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby gaylest » 15 Mar 2006, 13:37

Thank you yet again Suanj !! I can at least eliminate a lot of departure ports now and start searching again!
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Postby suanj » 15 Mar 2006, 16:33

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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby zanna » 17 Mar 2006, 02:59

Hi Gaylest,

Can you please tell me where you are searching for Passengers lists from Hamburg. My g.grand father came to NZ from Trento, Italy in about 1868 and it is likely he left from Hamburg too and possibly went via Australia.

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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby brujaojos » 20 Mar 2006, 05:39

Hi There,

Some of these links may help you also.

The National Archives in New Zealand www.archives.govt.nz/holdings/immigration_frame.html

Archives New Zealand Head Office Wellington holds passenger lists for nearly all ships arriving in New Zealand for the period 1883-1973. On arrival in New Zealand, ships handed formal Passenger Lists to a customs officer.

The Social Security Department used these Passenger Lists to check people's eligibility for old age pensions. They are referred to as the Social Security passenger lists.

Another source could be the Library in Christchurch NZ, who also maintain Passenger Lists
http://library.christchurch.org.nz/Guid ... ngerLists/


Here are a couple of websites that might help.

http://www.passengerlists.co.uk

http://www.cyndislist.com/newzealand.htm

http://freespace.virgin.net/donald.haze ... sfotos.htm

http://www.users.on.net/~proformat/auspass2.html

http://www.genealogylinks.net/newzealand/nzships.htm

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nzbound/

http://members.optushome.com.au/lenoref ... pslog.html

http://www.nzmaritime.org.nz/library.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/az/nzgenweb/

http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/ships.htm

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/

http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html

I hope this helps,
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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby gaylest » 20 Mar 2006, 12:38

Dear Trish
Thank you so much I did not have all these links! will go searching again.
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Re: Emigration mid 1870's to Australia or New Zealand

Postby suanj » 20 Mar 2006, 16:09

Hi Gayle, I think that something no right abt your ancestor's story.. from your other post I read abt a Fortunato Locchi emigrated in la Spezia Italy and this is no your ancestor obviously, but as I wish say you, it is that the birthyear that you provided in livorno civil records office is no right, so they no found it...
from a first resume in this morning we have:
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1. Girolamo Locchi spouse Carmina..?
1.1 Fortunato Locchi (abt 1855?: no) almost 1839/ 1845 Livorno, Italy; death 1893, spouse Jan 1865 Maria Amelia Bastogi (About 1857: no) almost 1840/45 Livorno, Italy, daughter of Giuseppe Bastogi and Elisabetta ..?
1.1.1 Ferruccio Enrico Locchi, Livorno 25/11/1866 marriage: 1890 Elizabeth Emily VIDLER Death: 1944 Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia
1.1.3.1. Ernest F. LOCCHI Birth: 1891
1.1.2 Ezlo A G Locchi Livorno 13/05/1872; Marriage: 1901 Paddington By Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Death: 1918 Paddington By Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
1.1.3 Dante Locchi 06/12/1875 dunnedin NZ
1.1.4 LOUISA MARIA LOCCHI 1882 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Marriage: 18 JAN 1905 Clarence Arthur BIFFIN Paddington, , New South Wales, Australia
1.1.5. Anita Eleanor LOCCHI Birth: 1883-23 Death: 23 Mar 1960; marriage 1904 William John VIDLER
1.1.6. Joseph F Locchi 1885 Sydney, New South Wales, Australia death 1899
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well, I KNOW that they only online records this, but WHAT I wish say that
Fortunato married in 1865 or SO, because the first child born in 1866... Fortunato must born almost abt 1839/45 and so also for Maria Amelia....
the better thing is to see the LDS microfilms about Livorno in the probable birthyears, and if you no find it, is only a explanation as I think very probable, and that they are jew surnames; if you no find it, you can write in Livorno jew community, because in Italy the jewish people until abt 1900 (+ or -) had own birthregistries, so no in LDS and no in civil records office...
just my suggestion about your search.. regards, suanj
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