Family in Italy

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Family in Italy

Postby pacha » 22 Apr 2006, 06:17

:) Researching family/relatives: Grandfather--Francesco Nicolini (born 1892-1896). Origin Genoa, or Veneto. Grandmother--Rosa Sparacino (born 1892-1896). Origin Palermo, or Sambuca di Sicilia. They were married in 1918. Migrated to the USA. Believed that Francesco only filed a Declaration of Intent. Had 5 known children; E.J., Frank, Agosto (August), Gloria and Asante. Some of family lived in/near New Orleans, Louisiana. Believed grandparents came through port (s) of Genoa, Palermo (perhaps LeHavre). Please contact me if able to help. :idea:

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby nuccia » 22 Apr 2006, 06:35

Hi Pacha,

Did your grandparents marry in the US? I found this record of marriage in Lousiana:


Name: Francisco Nicolini
Spouse: Rosa Sparanino
Age: 22
Age: 24
Gender: M
Marriage Date: 19 Jun 1918
Volume: 41
Page: 219

Still looking...

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby nuccia » 22 Apr 2006, 06:42

Hi Again,

SSDI records on:

Social Security Death Index Recordinfo
about August Nicolini
Name: August Nicolini
SSN: 436-24-6823
Last Residence: 70003 Metairie, Jefferson, Louisiana, United States of America
Born: 6 Jun 1924
Died: Oct 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951 )

Social Security Death Index Recordinfo
about E. J. Nicolini
Name: E. J. Nicolini
SSN: 435-18-5145
Last Residence: 70005 Metairie, Jefferson, Louisiana, United States of America
Born: 2 Sep 1922
Died: 16 Feb 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951 )

Social Security Death Index Recordinfo
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
SSN: 438-34-2889
Born: 8 May 1930
Died: Sep 1971
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951 )

Draft registration information on Frank Senior...

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 Recordinfo
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
City: New Orleans
County: Orleans
State: Louisiana
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1895
Race: Caucasian
Roll: 1684923
DraftBoard: 10

Here's a link to view the actual record from ancestry...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8035/imagex1ok.gif

I'm still looking...
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Re: Family in Italy

Postby nuccia » 22 Apr 2006, 06:49

I think this is the 1920 census for the Nicolini family..

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Frank Nicolini
Name: Frank Nicolini
Age: 23 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Home owned: Rent
Sex: Male
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Year of immigration: 1915
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 1235

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Rosa Nicolini
Name: Rosa Nicolini
Age: 20 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Sex: Female
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Year of immigration: 1901
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy

1920 United States Federal Census Recordinfo
about Josephine Nicolini
Name: Josephine Nicolini
Age: 8 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1919
Birthplace: Louisiana
Race: White
Home in 1920: New Orleans Ward 11, Orleans, Louisiana
Sex: Female
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 1235

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3352/imagex4iv.gif

shows a daughter Josephine.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby jcsm400 » 22 Apr 2006, 07:16

From "New Orleans Death Record Index 1804-1949"

Record Frank Nicolini 49 Apr 1946 2628 222 View Full Context

1920 census shows he was naturalized in 1918. Wasn't there a five year waiting period?

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby jcsm400 » 22 Apr 2006, 07:33

From: "Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving @ New Orleans 1900-1952"
NARA #T618-15 Moreno, A.--Ottley, Clarence Eldridge FHL#1412588

If he came through New Orleans, you may want to rent the above film @ your local Family History Center. Rental is 5.50/5.75 for a month.

Also, here is the FHL # to look forhis naturalization record.

From: Naturalization Index, New Orleans District Court 1811-1984"
McLeod, Jno. - Pajares, Adolph Pio FHL US/CAN Film
1411861

Do you need info on the Family History Centers?
Hope this helps.

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Postby wldspirit » 22 Apr 2006, 13:15

Obit of E.J. Nicolini...........

Nicolini - Earl Joseph "Nic' Nicolini, A Retired Salesman With Standard Register
Company, Died Monday, February 16, 2004 Of Complications From Parkinson's Disease. He
Was 81. Mr. Nicolini Was A Life-Long Resident Of New Orleans. He Was A Graduate Of St.
Aloysius High School. Mr. Nicolini Was A Navy Fighter Pilot In Wwii And Served In The
Atlantic And Pacific Theaters. He Was A Parishioner Of St. Angela Merici Catholic
Church. He Is Survived By His Wife Of 57 Years, Mary King Nicolini, Six Children, John
R. Nicolini, Mary Ann Nicolini, Frances N. Poole, James K. Nicolini, Susan N. Hocke And
Daniel J. Nicolini; A Sister, Mrs. John R. Gensert Of Dickinson, Texas; Sons And
Daughters-In-Law, John R. Poole, Sr., Jan P. Nicolini, Ben J. Hocke And Brent S.
Nicolini And Nine Grandchildren. Visitation Will Be Held At St. Angela Merici Catholic
Church, 835 Melody Drive, Metairie, Louisiana On Wednesday, February 18, From 11:00
Until 1:00 P.M. With A Funeral Mass Immediately Following. In Lieu Of Flowers,
Donations To Parkinson's Research Are Preferred. Times Picayune 02-17-2004
************************************************************
Obit for Gloria......

Gloria Nicolini Laneri, a homemaker, died Sunday of
cancer at East Jefferson General Hospital. She was 61. Mrs. Laneri
was born in New Orleans and lived in Metairie for the past 34 years.
She was a parishioner of St. Dominic Catholic Church. Survivors
include a son, John B. Laneri; two daughters, Lanie Laneri Lama and
Lisa Laneri Gangi; a sister, Santa N. Berry; and three
grandchildren. A Mass will be said Tuesday at 9 a.m. at Lamana-
Panno-Fallo Funeral Home, 1717 Veterans Memorial Blvd. Burial will
be in Lake Lawn Mausoleum. 06-12-1995 Times Picayune
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You need to pull all US documents in order to discover the exact town of origin, then you can check for microfilmed records of birth, marriage and death of that town by the Lds...if there are no records filmed, you will need to send request to Italy for those documents.

Start with the birth records of the known children, the marriage record of the parents and do not overlook church records. The parents would have provided detailed info to the church as to when and where they were baptized as well as having the children baptized.
Here is an address for request..........
"To get further information, you might want to get a copy of the
sacramental record if your ancestor was Catholic. It can be obtained by writing to the"
Archdiocese Archives, 1100 Chartres Ave., New Orleans, LA 70116.

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby pacha » 23 Apr 2006, 01:14

:) Thank all of you so much for your help. I have been trying for some time now to advance in my research (Re: Nicolini & Sparacino). One big question was whether grandfather Francesco was ever naturalized or just filed a Declaration of Intent. And did Rosa (Sparacino/Sparanino) automatically become a citizen by marriage? I really appreciate the help. Anything else you find or can suggest to me would be wonderful.

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby nuccia » 23 Apr 2006, 01:57

pacha wrote::) Thank all of you so much for your help. I have been trying for some time now to advance in my research (Re: Nicolini & Sparacino). One big question was whether grandfather Francesco was ever naturalized or just filed a Declaration of Intent. And did Rosa (Sparacino/Sparanino) automatically become a citizen by marriage? I really appreciate the help. Anything else you find or can suggest to me would be wonderful.


Hi Pacha,

Yes, as you can see be the 1920 census he did in fact naturalize and so did Rosa. I believe that the wife automatically naturalized when the husband did but I'm not sure as to when this changed. I do know that in the 1950's each person had to file for naturalization separately. Maybe someone else can offer another opinion on this?

This might be worth reading...

http://www.ipums.org/usa/voliii/inst1910.html

Nuccia :D

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby pacha » 29 Apr 2006, 22:14

Once again--thanks for the help on this research. Question? Since it seems that Francesco and Rosa were naturalized is it at all possible for me (as their granddaughter) to get dual citizenship? Or is that impossible since their children were all born in the USA after they became naturalized. Thanks. Ciao. :)

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Re: Family in Italy

Postby wldspirit » 30 Apr 2006, 03:58

Faq on citizenship........
http://www.italiamerica.org/id71.htm
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