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Postby miko_q » 21 May 2006, 21:56

hi brand new to this site. hoping someone can point me in the right direction. we know that my great grandfather came to america from italy when he was a boy. my maiden name is mottese. have not been able to find any record of him through ellis island. there are very few facts about him from my grandfather and great aunts. how would i find him if he changed his name before or after he came over.
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Postby nuccia » 21 May 2006, 23:00

Hi miko_q.

What is your great grandfathers first name and approx. date of birth? Where in Italy did he come from and who was he married to (if you know)? Any childrens names would also be great and where he went to in the States and approx. when?

All you can provide us will make it easier to find him.

There aren't that many Mottese...a Jerry or Gennarino from New Jersey I can find at a quick glance born about 1889 -1891... Could this be him?

Look forward to hearing from you....

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Postby miko_q » 22 May 2006, 01:18

yes thats him! where did you find him? was there any other info? my name is victoria (mottese). my father is gerald vincent mottese. my grandfather is eugene joseph mottese sr. he married mary (my grandmother) my father was born in New jersery in 1950. i'm not sure what my grandmothers maiden name is. but they had four children gerald (my father) john, eugene Jr. and Jolene (deceased). my grandfather was born with a different first name though. at this time i cant remember what is was but he changed in before he joined the navy. my great grandfather came to this country when he was a little boy by himself. supposedly he stayed with family. nobody i have access to at the moment really knows anything about him. he barely spoke english and didn't talk about the past very much. i'm pretty sure he served in ww 1 but we don't even know if for america or another country. hope some of this helps. i'm trying to get ahold of my dad to find out what else i can. more later
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Postby jcsm400 » 22 May 2006, 02:43

Hi Vickie,

As Nuccia stated, where is information on him in NJ

There is a WWI Registration Draft Card, 1910 & 1930 Census & SS death Index

Will link some records for you.
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Postby miko_q » 22 May 2006, 03:21

my paternal family lives in lincoln park ner jersery. it is in morris county

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Postby jcsm400 » 22 May 2006, 03:26

WWI Draft Registration Card

Gennariono Mottese, age 26
b. 10/22/1891 Montefretane Arellina (?)
Res: Main Rd., Haskell, NJ
Works for paper mill

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2269 ... wwi8ys.jpg


1910 Oakland Boro, Bergen, NJ
Jenaro Mottese-Boarder-23-Italy-single-immig 1097?-Alien
Sorry! Should be 1907 ?-Alien :oops:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3062/m ... 9100wh.jpg


1930 Hackensack, Bergen, NJ
Mottese, Jerry-head-rents-37-married @ 32 -immig. 1911-occu: laborer in paper mill
" Josie-wife-29-NY-married @ 24
" Eugene-son-3 1/2-NJ
" Adele-daug.-8/12-NJ

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5488 ... 9301xk.jpg


SS Death Index

Jerry Mottese b. 1/4/1889 d. Oct 1979 Allendale, Bergen, NJ


Take a look & see what you think. There are some discrepancies in date of birth & ages on the two census records.

Hope it helps.
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Re: surname changes

Postby miko_q » 22 May 2006, 07:14

oh my goodness! how are you finding this stuff? i know for a fact that he died on oct 2 1979. no in our family (at this point knows exactly how old he was or what year he was born. my grandfather Eugene was born on aug 4. adele is my aunt. how can i find out more? this is fantastic! my grandfather is celebrating his 80th birthday this year and i really want to put something together for him.

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Postby jcsm400 » 22 May 2006, 09:17

Hi Miko_q,

Everything has been found on ancestry.com, a pay site, but well worth the money!

Here is a link that may be on the 1979 death record. These are volunteers, that will do specifis lookups in their counties. I'm sure one in Bergen, NJ will help you.

http://www.raogk.com/newjersey.htm

As for town of birth per WWI card, I think it should Montefradane in the province of Avellino.

Checking on something...will get back to you....may be awhile.
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Postby brujaojos » 23 May 2006, 06:02

Hi There,

I believe this is Gennaro's Ship's Manifest.

http://ellisisland.org/search/shipManif ... 2305100150

The town on the manifest and the WWI Draft card is
Montefredane, Avellino, Campania, Italy

The Family History Center has microfilm for the town of Montefredane. Here is the link for the film numbers.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... =1&last=50

Here is the link to find the nearest Family History Center.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library ... et_fhc.asp

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Postby brujaojos » 23 May 2006, 06:10

Hi Again,

Per the 1930 census that Joyce found, Jerry was married about 1924-1925. You can go to the New Jersey State Archives to look up his Marriage Application as well as his naturalization records.

Here is the link for the NJ State Archives.
http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/archives.html

Also, here is the information about the 1920 census. He was living with the Rollo famiy and was the "Brother-in-law"

Name: Genario Mottasa (Mottese)
[Genario Mottosa]
Age: 30 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Home in 1920: Camden Ward 8, Camden, New Jersey
Sex: Male
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law
Year of immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Image: 166
Image Source: Year: 1920; Census Place: Camden Ward 8, Camden, New Jersey; Roll: T625_1023; Page: 16B; Enumeration District: 53; Image: 166

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Postby nuccia » 23 May 2006, 06:18

Hi,,

Here's a link to the 1920 census Trish provided...

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3220/imagex1su.gif

Glad it turned out to be the correct person after all. :D :D

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Postby miko_q » 23 May 2006, 06:18

you guys are absolutely amazing! please if you have the time (and want to of course) keep the info coming. i'm writing letters to n.j. to request copies of everything. we believe that jerry (as he was called) was the only one to come over. we know nothing about his parents. we dont know if he had siblings. we have have a lot of family that we don't know about. but if he is listed as a brother in law he must of been related to the people he was related to! this is unbelievable! i'm just floored. i cant believe no one in my family has done this yet.
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Postby nuccia » 23 May 2006, 06:52

Vickie,

Glad this all helped you! I'm sure more things will pop up. Just keep your eyes and ears open for any more small details that can help. Jerry's wife was born in NJ if I'm mistaken. Do you happen to know her maiden name or year of birth? Ordering the records from the FHL as Trish suggested may be a smart move. At least you may be able to track his parents and/or siblings down.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Re: surname changes

Postby jcsm400 » 23 May 2006, 07:44

Hi Vickie, Trish, & Nuccia

When I said I was checking on something (see above), I called in enforcement, Trish!. So glad that Trish was able to find information for you.


Thank you so much Trish. :)

And thanks Nuccia for your linking. & getting the ball rolling. :)
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Re: surname changes

Postby brujaojos » 23 May 2006, 07:58

Hi Everyone,

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