Around and around....Lupiano history

[wldspirit]

Census reports can contain errors for whatever reason.......my husband had an ancestor who listed a different state of birth on each of the three census I located for him.........presented a challenge until I located his parents!!! But that's genealogy....sometimes you follow a lead and it turns out to be a dead-end.........
wldspirit

[amnlupiano]

OK...with your help, I've taken the next steps.

I sent a letter off to Mass. requesting the birth information of my grandfather Alfredo.

Additionally, I requested any and all information the US Army may have on file.

I discovered something interesting. I have been wondering why the Army has his birth year listed as 1908 instead of 1907. Surely they would not make such a mistake. My Army friend thinks he knows why: in 1942 my grandfather would have been 35 years old, which is over the maximum 34 year old requirement. Hence, in his opinion, my grandfather lied/forged his birth certificate to state he was 34 so he could join. This is quite a revelation, as it really opened up my eyes to how strongly immigrants felt about "defending" their adopted country. If memory serves me correctly, the Allies were losing the front in late 1941, so many volunteered to help turn the tide.

Quite a story indeed! Stay tuned for more information....

[amnlupiano]

Well, it's taken many, many years, but I found out a few more things.

I now know:

My great grandfather's name was Vincenzo Lupiano. His wife: Rosina Spatafore (not sure of her last name's spelling, as I've seen Spadafore, Spatafora, etc.)

Also, I discovered my grandfather has another brother: Antonio Marino Vincenzo Lupiano. DOB is August 28, 1904 Boston.


My father was blown away, as he never heard about another brother. I can't find any trace of him (death, marriage, etc.) after his birth. I don't know if he ever came back to America or died in Italy.


Anyway, now that I'm getting closer, how can I find a marriage record or birth record of my Great Grandparents? Other than rumors they were from Avellino, that's all I know.

BTW - I am tracking another story from my father about a possible link to adopted children of my great grandfather.

[pink67]

My great grandfather's name was Vincenzo Lupiano. His wife: Rosina Spatafore (not sure of her last name's spelling, as I've seen Spadafore, Spatafora, etc.)

Also, I discovered my grandfather has another brother: Antonio Marino Vincenzo Lupiano. DOB is August 28, 1904 Boston.

Don't know if these records may be helfpul for you...

From the free site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home

Massachusetts births and christening, 1639-1915

Name: Annie Lupiano
Birth date: 17 january 1902
Birth Place: Boston
Father's name: Vincenzo Lupiano
Mother's name: Rosa Spadafore

Name: Carmine Lupiano
Birth date: 17 january 1900
Birth place: Boston
Father's name: Vincenzo Lupiano
Mother's name: Rosa Spada

Name: Alfred Lupiano
Birth Date: 17 april 1907
Birth Place: Boston
Father's name: Vincenzo Lupiano
Mother's name: Rosina Spadafore

Name: Antonio Marino Vincenzo Lupiano
Birth Date: 28 august 1904
Birth Place: Boston
Father's name: Vincenzo Lupiano
Mother's name: Rosa Spatafore

Laura

[pink67]

From Ancestry.com:

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Carmine Lupiano
Name: Carmine Lupiano
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1900
Birth Place: Boston, Mass
Residence: Manocalzati, Avellino
Passport Issue Date: 8 Apr 1922
Father Name: Vincenso Lupiano
Father's Birth Location: Manocalzati, Prov Avellino, Italy
Father's Residence: Manocalzati, Avellino
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

image page 1:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxezOTS

image page 2:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsSf55r

from the declaration on the passport:

I was brought to Italy in 1908 by my father. He took up permanent residence in Italy and as I was a minor I was forced to remain with him. On march 8, 1918 I was called for Military Service and I was discharged on September 1st, 1921. Now I desire to return to the United states and I expect to remain there permanently

image page 3:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqw6VFi

Manocalzati, Avellino Province, Campania region:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manocalzati

Laura

[pink67]

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Alfredo Lupiano
Name: Alfredo Lupiano
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1907
Birth Place: Boston, Mass
Residence: Manogalzato, Avellino
Passport Issue Date: 12 Jul 1923
Father Name: Vincenzo Lupiano
Father's Residence: Manocalzato, Prov Avellino
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

image page 1:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqw7L2i

image page 2: (with Photo)
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqw7Xw0

image page 3: (with birth certificate)
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqw8btS

please note on page 2 that his sister Anne Lupiano is mentioned as wife of Noe Carbone....

Laura


edit to add:

4 april 1899 arrival manifest for Rosina Spadafora, married, occupation wife, from Manocalzati to Boston MA to join her husband Vincenzo Lupiani

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0001

[pink67]

22 april 1898

Vincenzo Lopiano arrival, age 26, married, from Manocalzati to Boston MA to join his father Generoso:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026

Laura

edit to add:

1900 United States Federal Census
about James Lapeano
Name: James Lapeano
[James Laneano]
Home in 1900: Boston Ward 6, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 27
Birth Date: Feb 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1898
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's name: Rosie
Marriage Year: 1897
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 3
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Lapeano 27 head, born in IT on February 1872
Rosie Lapeano 22 wife, born in IT on November 1877
Camillo Lapeano 5/12 son, born in MA on January 1900

image from Ancestry.com:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsSo1OJ

[amnlupiano]

OMG!!!!


I can't thank you all enough! IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME SOME TIME TO PROCESS!

For the first time, I have proof I'm from Manocalzati!!!!

[PeterTimber]

In Italy whenever a child was born close to the end of the year the father would postpone registering the childs birth until the following year so that his army enlistment would be delayed (even in peace time so that he could remain home and help support the family one more year since men would postpone getting married until after their army service.

This is most likely the reason for the birth year alteration in 1908 =Peter=

[pink67]

OMG!!!!


I can't thank you all enough! IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME SOME TIME TO PROCESS!

For the first time, I have proof I'm from Manocalzati!!!!

Glad I was able to help!

Laura

[johnnyonthespot]

Anyway, now that I'm getting closer, how can I find a marriage record or birth record of my Great Grandparents? Other than rumors they were from Avellino, that's all I know.

If either of them lived into the late 1930's or beyond, you may be able to obtain copies of their social security applications. These should contain their date and place of birth as well as father's name / mother's maiden name.

See http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm

[lstew452]

Anna's information is a mystery, although I recently discovered she married a Noah Carbone.

My reply is I am Anna's grandchild who married my grandfather Noah Carbone.

[Budwho]

Thats my mother Anna Lupiano who married my father Noah Carbone, My name is also Noah we are on face book.