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Postby Santarelli » 13 Oct 2006, 20:38

Hello Everyone,

The following will be a brief history of my Santarelli family. Please, if you have any helpful advice do not hesitate to contact me here, or at my email address.

My Great-grandfather, Antonio Santarelli was born in Montepagano Italy during the mid-1800's. He was married to Angela Porupei in the latter part of that century, giving birth to four children: Giovanni(my grandfather), Ines, Sesso, and Maria.

In 1903, Antonio immigrated to America through New York. He moved to Galveston, Texas shortly thereafter. He worked in Galveston as a shoemaker, owning his own shop, "Island Shoe Shop."

In 1911, Antonio travelled back to Montepagano. There, he picked-up his son Giovanni, and travelled back to Galveston.

In 1912, his wife Angela, Ines, Sesso, and Maria immigrated to America.
Angela died shortly after.

Antonio travelled to Montepagano again. He married a woman named Rosalb(last name unknown). She was 20, he was 43. In fact she was only 4 years older than Antonio's oldest son Giovanni.

WWI came, and Giovanni was enlisted into the US Army. He came back when the war was over, and settled in Arizona briefly. While in Arizona, he met and married Catherine Soto. Right afterwards, they moved to Galveston.

Antonio had 2 children with Rosalb about this time: Teresa, and Frank. Frank, an infant son died in 1921. Antonio and Rosalb had a falling-out, and she moved back to Montepagano, taking Teresa with her.

Giovanni and Catherine had 5 children:John, Evangeline, George, Gloria, Harold, and William(my father).

Here are my issues with regard to obtaining Italian citizenship:
*Catherine "Soto" was adopted. Her correct last name is Greenfield. Arizona has no record of a Catherine Greenfield being born there in 1902-1903. Likewise, Arizona has no record of a Catherine Soto being born at that time either.
Her marriage license lists her as Soto. Her adopted father signed the certificate as well. There is no record of Greenfield, other than my grandmother's memory(She is 103 and still quite alive). Should I try to correct everything, or just go with Soto as her last name?

*Giovanni Santarelli, my grandfather changed his name to John, but there is no legal record of this change.

*Giovanni was an alien when he fought in WWI. Giovanni was an alien when he got out of the army. Giovanni however, marked "Na" on his 1930 census. How do I know? He couldn't get a bank loan later in life, when he tried to open a shoe shop in a neighboring town, as he was an alien. I cannot at this time find a 1920 census record for him.

So far, I cannot verify he naturalized. I can't even find his draft card. He has no Galveston County records that I can find so far. If this continues, and no records are found what can I do about the 1930 census record?

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Postby Esperanza » 13 Oct 2006, 23:19

This would be Antonio's 1930 Census record ?

1930 United States Federal Census Record
about Antonio Santarelli
Name: Antonio Santarelli
Home in 1930: Galveston, Galveston, Texas
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head

Please note his citizenship in 1930

It says "UN"... I will try to relink a better image.

Antonio Santorelli 1930 census Texas

What if Giovanni was still an Alien.. and thought his father was naturalized?

If the record I posted is of Giovanni's father... then it tells me that his fathers American citizenship at this point was also undetermined or unknown?

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Postby Santarelli » 13 Oct 2006, 23:34

Yes, that is Antonio's census for 1930, after his 2nd wife, and daughter Teresa went back to Italy.

On the 1920 census, notice how all the children from the 1st marriage use the 2nd wife's name as "mother." Rosalb would have had to be 6yrs old to mother Sesso.

Giovanni(John), isn't on the 1920 census, as he was in Arizona. However, no Arizona record of him there except for the Pima County marriage license.

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Postby nuccia » 13 Oct 2006, 23:35

Heres a link to the census Speranza found...hope its clearer and hope you don't mind me jumping in like this Speranza..

Antonio Census

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Postby wldspirit » 13 Oct 2006, 23:41

With regard to the naturalization:

What if my Italian ancestor was never naturalized?

A. You must prove that your ancestor never became naturalized this with a certification of "NO RECORDS" from the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (BCIS) as proof that your ancestor was never naturalized. You will also need a statement of "NO RECORDS" from the National Archives and a survey report from a census dated after the date of birth of your ancestor's child.

Census records are notorious for mistakes.......and I have yet to hear of a consulate requiring census records.........maybe Mler would have some further insight.


Here is an Faq on dual citizenship:
http://www.italiamerica.org/id71.htm

For naturalization request:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/aboutus/h ... NATREC.htm

request form for record:

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm

Hope this helps.
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Postby Esperanza » 13 Oct 2006, 23:42

Santarelli wrote:Yes, that is Antonio's census for 1930, after his 2nd wife, and daughter Teresa went back to Italy.

On the 1920 census, notice how all the children from the 1st marriage use the 2nd wife's name as "mother." Rosalb would have had to be 6yrs old to mother Sesso.

Giovanni(John), isn't on the 1920 census, as he was in Arizona. However, no Arizona record of him there except for the Pima County marriage license.


Rosabla (surname unknown) was born in 1894?

Assuming that she married in 1914 or so?

You did say they married in Italy?

I haven't seen the 1920 census record yet.

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Postby Santarelli » 13 Oct 2006, 23:46

Antonio had the "Island Shoe Shop" where his son Giovanni(John) apprenticed in the 1930's.

Giovanni wanted to open a shop in a neighboring town later on, but couldn't get a bank loan because there was no record of his naturalization.

Yes, he married both women in Montepagano ie., Roseto degli Abruzzi. I do not have the census on a photo hosting server, but will try tonight. If you have access to the 1920 census- search "Rosalb Santarelli" her name is fairly uncommon.

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Postby Esperanza » 13 Oct 2006, 23:53

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1920 United States Federal Census Record
about Rosalb Santarelli
Name: Rosalb Santarelli
Home in 1920: Galveston Ward 9, Galveston, Texas
Age: 26 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Antonio
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1915
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 966

Antonio Santarelli 49
Rosalb Santarelli 26
Sixtus Santarelli 18
Mary Santarelli 16
Teresa Santarelli 4 5/12
Frank Santarelli 1 1/12

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Postby wldspirit » 14 Oct 2006, 00:03

Nuccia......we always jump in.....it's called teamwork!!!!
No egos......no one man show.....just great teamwork..... :D
That's what makes this site top notch!!!!!!!!
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Postby jcsm400 » 14 Oct 2006, 00:39

John (Giovanni) Santorelli's 1920 census? Show him naturalized 1910.

1920 United States Federal Census Record

Name: John Santarill
[John Santarell]
Home in 1920: Galveston Ward 11, Galveston, Texas
Age: 21 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 288
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sam Continell 28
Enis Continell 25
Lillian Continell 3 4/12
Dorthy Continell 1 4/12
John Santarill 21
Katie Santarill 17

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1930 Census

1930 United States Federal Census Record

Name: John Santarelli
Home in 1930: Galveston, Galveston, Texas
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Catherine
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
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Household Members: Name Age
John Santarelli 32
Catherine Santarelli 27
John Santarelli 9
Evangeline Santarelli 8
George Santarelli 6
Gloria Santarelli 5
Herold Santarelli 2 4/12
William Santarelli 2/12

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Will do linking after lunch, if Nuccia or somebody else doesn't do it before!

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Postby Santarelli » 14 Oct 2006, 01:07

Thank you all!

Hmmm...Seems the 1920 census is more mixed-up than the 1930.

I am positive John(Giovanni) came over on La Lorraine from the port of Havre in 1911 with his father, one year after the 1920 census has him being naturalized.

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Postby Esperanza » 14 Oct 2006, 01:30

You are positive!

1911 Ship record

First Name: Giovanni
Last Name: Santarelli
Ethnicity: Italy
Last Place of Residence: Montepagano, Italy
Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1911
Age at Arrival: 13 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: La Lorraine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0002

I guess that there is still an outstanding ship record of Antonio for 1915 or 1914?

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Postby Santarelli » 14 Oct 2006, 01:59

I havn't seen one for New York.
As far as Galveston, I haven't found one yet.

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Postby jcsm400 » 14 Oct 2006, 02:01

Esperanza wrote:I guess that there is still an outstanding ship record of Antonio for 1915 or 1914?

Speranza


No....prior to 1911 for Antonio.

page 2 of 1911 manifest

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Postby nuccia » 14 Oct 2006, 02:12

Links to the records jcsm found..

1920 Census

1930 Census

Thanks Lisa, Joyce...teamwork..yup...I agree! :D

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