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Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby nprofit » 01 Jun 2008, 12:56

Hi - new to this site. I am unable to find the town where my ggf came from in Italy. Came to NY in 1882 from Havre; last known address is Torino. But it seemed like everyone on the ship came from Torino! GGF name is Ferdinando Cantagalli born 1849; his father's name was Giuseppe. Where do you look when it could be anywhere in Italy??!! Thanks for your help. Nancy

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 14:03

Hi Nancy,

is this your GGrandfather? Unfortunately there is no place of birth :cry:

U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995
about Ferdinando Cantagalli
Name: Ferdinando Cantagalli
Age: 46
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1849
Arrival Year: 1884
Issue Date: 8 Oct 1895

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Laura :D

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 14:11

From : http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

New York City death index (1891-1948)

Surname Cantigalli
Given Name Ferdinand
Age 54 y
Month Apr
Day 27
Year 1904
Certificate Number 16545
County Manhattan
Soundex C532

Do you have his death certificate?
Laura

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 14:24

From :
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

Surname Cantagalli
Given Name Ford
Month of Marriage Sep
Day of Marriage 13
Yearof Marriage 1887
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 74971
Soundex C532

Surname Monsgradi
Given Name Louisa
Month of Marriage Sep
Day of Marriage 13
Year of Marriage 1887
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 74971
Soundex M526

Nancy, from the site:
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html

it seems that the Cantagalli surname is present in the Piedmont region in these six Communes:

The "cantagalli" surname occours in 6 out of 1206 towns.

5.02 Chivasso Torino
2.73 Grugliasco Torino
2.38 Castagneto Po Torino
2.29 Chiusa di San Michele Torino
2.29 Arquata Scrivia Alessandria
2.21 Torino Torino

Laura :D

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 14:35

1900 United States Federal Census
about F Cantagallo
Name: F Cantagallo
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Italy
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's Name: Louise
Race: White
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Immigration Year: 1884
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
F Cantagallo 50
Louise Cantagallo 43
Josephine Cantagallo 10
Marie Cantagallo 7
Egidio Baumiller 41

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 14:49

:? :? :?

Is this manifest about your GGrandfather arrival in 1882??

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Ferdinand Cantagallo
Name: Ferdinand Cantagallo
Arrival Date: 24 Aug 1882
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Destination: New York,United States of America
Place of Origin: Modane,Wales
Ship Name: Labrador
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Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 53
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_456
List Number: 1205
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

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If this manifest is correct Ferdinand was coming from Modane, today a French town.....but, until 1861 Modane was part of the Kingdom of Sardinia...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modane

Laura :?:

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby pink67 » 01 Jun 2008, 15:07

1910 United States Federal Census
about Louisa Cantagalli
Name: Louisa Cantagalli
[Teresia Cantagalli]
Age in 1910: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 8, New York, New York
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Year of Immigration: 1883
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louisa Cantagalli 59
Josephine Cantagalli 19
Mary Cantagalli 17

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby suanj » 01 Jun 2008, 15:15

abt the marriage:
Ferdinando Cantagalli Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: , , Italy

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Giuseppe Family
Mother: Maria Da...


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Marriages:
Spouse: Luisa Monsagradi Family
Marriage: 13 SEP 1887 Manhattan, New York, New York

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

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abt Modane, Wales .......... I have some doubt... ...enlarging the ship's manifest I read on previous lines also Naples Wales and Pavia Wales.... I believe that the Wales handwriting is really different of Wales... .... in the next page it is also a Giovanni Cantagalli travelling age 31 in 1882 and the birthtown is illegible really... someone with better eyes can help?
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Re: Cantagalli or Monsagradi

Postby nprofit » 19 Oct 2008, 17:11

Thanks to those who responded regarding my gg grandfather, Ferdinando Cantagalli. The 1900 census was new for me; I have the 1910 census. I wondered if Modane was the town in Italy. Does anyone have any information on that town?

I believe Giovanni Cantagalli was related since they were on the same ship.

Also, his wife Louisa (Luisa) Monsagradi. I have no information on her after the 1910 census. Any suggestions?

Thanks, again for all your help!
Nancy

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Re: Unable to find town where ggf came from

Postby PeterTimber » 19 Oct 2008, 21:25

www.tiscali.it is an italian website and has total references to the town of MODANE which is what you put in the title provided you can read the Italian language. =Peter=


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