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looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby mduva » 04 Sep 2008, 17:57

My great grandfather came from casola ...love to trace his family but once he got onto the boat - we have no info besides a birth place and date. i would love to find his/ my ancestors. 11-22-1889 Casola I believe (but not sure) his wife's maiden name was Rondinone and also came from the same area.

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby PeterTimber » 04 Sep 2008, 18:41

Is that casola in Lunigiana, Massacarrara (MS), Toscana, Postale 54014?=Peter=

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby mduva » 06 Jul 2010, 23:21

casola, caserta italy looking for canzano and rondinone my great grandfather came from there is name was Gennaro Canzano born 1889 his fathers was Vincenzo and his mother was Maria Cicia he married Maria Rondinone in worcester ma also from the same town her parents were Vincenzo Rondinone and her mother was Trena Fiorillo

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby PeterTimber » 06 Jul 2010, 23:48

The casola you seek is a "frazione" or part of the city of CASERTA Codice 81100

Send a form letter in Italian for documents by reading this 2 page website for the form letters:
www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/it ... tters.html

send the form letters to UFFICIO DI STATO CIVILE, Via Apia 1 Comune di Caserta 81100, Campania, Italy. Its free of any charge!! =Peter=
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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jul 2010, 23:49

Do you have this marriage index record?

Line 1021...Gennaro Canzano, 24, and Maria Michela Rondinone, 23.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7199 ... record.jpg

I would follow Peter's advice and write to the comune. You have the place of birth and the names of the parents...with an approximate year of birth.


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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jul 2010, 23:54

There are 16 listings for Canzano in the Casola, Caserta phone book.

http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... &om=0&td=1

You might want to write to them as well :-)

Letter to a possible relative...
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... etter.html


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Postby mduva » 06 Jul 2010, 23:58

Thank you both. I will start there. Maria

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby pink67 » 07 Jul 2010, 07:12

mduva wrote:11-22-1889 Casola I believe (but not sure)


Looks like the birth date is correct:

from Ancestry.com:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Gennaro Canzano
Name: Gennaro Canzano
City: Worcester
County: Worcester
State: Massachusetts
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1889
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1674503
DraftBoard: 3

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxHjZ2i

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Gennaro Canzano
Name: Gennaro Canzano
Birth Date: 22 Nov 1889
Birth Place: Casola
Residence: Worcester, Massachusetts
Race: White
Roll: MIUSA1939B_082490

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVLfgQ9


Have you noticed that on the 1913 arrival manifest for Gennaro it seems he travelled with his wife Maria and son Vincenzo? Or, do you believe possible Maria was a sister?

from Ellisisland.org:

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0014

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0014

Gennaro stated he was joining his brother Giuseppe Canzano and leaving in Italy his brother Felice Canzano living in Valle di Maddaloni (Caserta Province)....

for references, from Ancestry.com:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Gewnaro Canzano
Name: Gewnaro Canzano
Home in 1920: Worcester Ward 4, Worcester, Massachusetts
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary M
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gewnaro Canzano 30 head, born in Italy
Mary M Canzano 30, wife, born in Italy
[20]
Vincent Canzano 10 son, born in New Jersey :?:
Emel Canzano 5, son, born in MA
[5 11/12]
Joseph Canzano , son born in MA
Mary Canzano 1, daughter, born in MA
[2 2/12]

living next door to Canzano Joseph....

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http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxHl_fA


1930 United States Federal Census
about Gennaro Canzano
Name: Gennaro Canzano
Home in 1930: Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts
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Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
Gennaro Canzano 40 head, born in Italy, immigr. year 1913
Mary Canzano 40 wife, born in Italy, immigr. year 1913
Vincent Canzano 20 son, born in New Jersey
Emillio Canzano 16 son, born in MA
Joseph Canzano 13 son, born in MA
Mary Canzano 11 daughter, born in MA
John Canzano 10 son, born in MA
Elena Canzano 8 daughter, born in MA

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxHlSM9

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby mduva » 08 Jul 2010, 23:06

Hi Laura, Its a strange family story with Gennaro and Maria and Vincenzo. It was told like this... Gennaro married Agnes (Rondinone) they had a child Vincent in New Jersey. Some how Agnes dies presumably in childbirth. Gennaro goes back to Italy with Vincent and returns with Agnes's sister Maria who he ends up marrying and having more children with. My grandfather is the son of Gennaro and Maria. I have not been able to find Agnes at all. Would love to find a birth cert. for vincent nameing Agnes as mother and or a death cert in new jersey for Agnes. I have found a Agnes comming over from Italy but the dates are wrong. I have not been able to find Gennaro and Vincent returning to Italy to get Maria. strange i know. 2 of Maria's and Gennaros children are still alive but hard for them to remember. m

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Jul 2010, 02:44

You can request Vincent's death record (though these are only as accurate as the informant) from Massachusetts using the information below...
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2termi ... id=Eeohhs2
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You can request his birth record from New Jersey...
http://www.state.nj.us/health/vital/gen.shtml

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003
Name: Vincent L Canzano
Certificate: 026877
Death Place: Worcester
Death Date: 13 Apr 1993
Birth Place: New Jersey
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1909

Social Security Death Index


Name: Vincent L. Canzano
SSN: 027-09-xxxx
Last Residence: 01604 Worcester, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 20 Nov 1909
Died: 13 Apr 1993
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)


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Postby mduva » 09 Jul 2010, 12:25

Thanks for tjhe link. I would love confirmation of Vincents mothers name. M

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby pink67 » 09 Jul 2010, 13:00

Mduva, this is (I believe) the first arrival in the U.S. for Gennaro:

20 April 1906:

Canzano Gennaro, age 17, (approx.birth year 1889), single, from Casola to Hoboken NJ, yo join his cousin Giuseppe Sepello/Sepillo?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

please note that he was travelling with Alessandro Canzano, age 36, married, from Casola to the same cousin in Hoboken NJ

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Postby mduva » 09 Jul 2010, 13:05

Awesome. Is there any rwcord of Agnes?? Aside from family stories I have no proof she existed. M

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Re: looking for canzano from casola italy

Postby pink67 » 09 Jul 2010, 13:23

There is a 1907 arrival manifest for Agnese Rondinone, age 33, married, from Sant'Agata (perhaps Sant'Agata dei Goti, Benevento Province, Campania region, but place of of birth for Agnese and for her children is Casola), to Jersey city to join her husband Lorenzo Bagnoli... she was travelling with her child and with her sister Rondinone Angela Maria, age 23, single....

Angela Maria Rondinone stated she was coming from Casola and joining her brother in law Lorenzo Bagnoli....

Maybe Angela Maria was Gennaro's wife?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019

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