What's in a name?

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What's in a name?

Postby Lindee » 26 Sep 2008, 22:17

I have just found records that one of my Italian ancestors was named, Patti Nicolina. What would the name "Patti" be short for? It seemed a little unusual to see that written on a death certificate from 1898. Thanks

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby juanminbar » 26 Sep 2008, 22:37

in all probability the italian name would have been...pasquale.

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby Lindee » 26 Sep 2008, 22:49

I thought Pasquale was a mans name? Is there a female version?

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby JohnArmellino » 26 Sep 2008, 23:07

Pasqualina is the feminine counterpart to Pasquale. Patti (which I've never encountered in my research) might also be a diminutive of Patrizia.
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Re: What's in a name?

Postby misbris » 26 Sep 2008, 23:53

Are you sure her name was not Nicolina Patti?

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby PeterTimber » 27 Sep 2008, 00:22

There are 603 cities, towns and villagesstretching from Sicily (large numbers) all the way to the northern border regions of people residing in these communities surnamed PATTI. =Peter=

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby dragoni » 27 Sep 2008, 01:41

i have seen a couple of more feminine forms of pasquale in my research such as:

pasquala
pascala

and have also come across many females with the more masculine versions (at least written on civil records):

pasquale
pascale

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby Lindee » 27 Sep 2008, 02:24

very good point. It just may be Patti as the last name. Thak you, that will take me in a different direction.

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby PeterTimber » 27 Sep 2008, 03:24

Nicolina is the female diminutive for Nicola which is a male first name.=Peter=

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby antusani » 27 Sep 2008, 13:50

Patti is a very common surname found in the town of Tusa, prov. of Messina, Sicily, the ancestral town of my father's family. I am guessing that the surname is derived from a geographical location, as is my family surname. There is a town in Sicily by the name of Patti. Here is a link to the town site: http://www.pattiedintorni.it/principale%20(eng).htm

Patti is also in the province of Messina, Sicily. There is a very interesting book, Our Italian Surnames, by Joseph G. Fucilla. Though the Patti name is not in the book, it is an interesting research tool for those of Italian ancestry.

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby Eleven » 27 Sep 2008, 14:03

I agree with Peter. When I read the name, I immediately felt that you had it backwards. Patti is the surname, and Nicolina the first name.

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby Lindee » 27 Sep 2008, 14:34

Thank you so much. This researching is truly an educating experience. I believe she was from Gibellina, Sicily Italy. At least I have something to go by.

Now that I have found her; my grandfather's grandmother, I'm sure it will be a real task to find her records.

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Re: What's in a name?

Postby PeterTimber » 27 Sep 2008, 14:47

Dear Antusani the surname PATTI is indeed an Italian surname listed in the Surname Dictionary as being local in origin ,but widely distributed in Sicily and centered in Messina, Sicily. =Peter=


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