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Looking for Veltre information

Postby StarV579 » 08 Oct 2008, 06:33

My great grandfathers name was Isaia Veltre and he was born in Bagnara Italy in 1896. He married a (Prosceno) actually it was Maria Prosceno in Wilmington, Delaware. I cannot find any information on isaia Veltre's family and didn't know if anyone out there could help me out?

Thanks any information would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby wldspirit » 08 Oct 2008, 11:24

Welcome to IG!!

So that we don't duplicate research already done, it's nice to have some feedback... :wink:
Are you looking for US records or Italian? What documents have you located so far? Manifest, census, naturalization, ect.
I did take a quick look and located his WW1 registration.
Do you have this record?

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby StarV579 » 09 Oct 2008, 06:08

thank you very much for your intrest. I have not located any record of him coming over from Italy, that would be through Ellis Island. I am nearly one hundred percent sure thats how he arrived in this country.

He said he came over with five brothers.. but I cant find any records...

So I am looking for Isaia Veltre ; a record in Italian, probably microfilm. He is from Bagnara, campanina, Italy. and I was told to write the municipality of Sant'Angelo a Cupolo.

and be charged 250 blah!

So I found Isaia's draft registration card, from Wimington Delaware through ancestry.com

and thats end no parents, nothing dead end from there.

any help or ideas are GREATLY appreciated!

thanks again
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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby pink67 » 09 Oct 2008, 06:31

hi starV579, :D

just for reference, this is his 1930 census:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Harry Veltre
Name: Harry Veltre
Home in 1930: Wilmington, New Castle, Delaware
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Veltre 34
Mary Veltre 29
Elizabeth Veltre 12
John Veltre 10
Honorata Veltre 8
Josephine Rollie 6
Anna Rollie 4
Jolanda Rollie 2

Harry declared he was 34 years old, married at 20, emigration in 1910...

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Postby wldspirit » 09 Oct 2008, 07:23

He list on WW2 draft registration place of birth as Bagnara:
Sant Angelo a Cupola is a town in Benevento, as is Bagnara.
Benevento is in the province of Campania.

The surname VELTRE is present in the following:

People/ town/ province

29.81 Pastorano Caserta
22.48 Pignataro Maggiore Caserta
17.94 Capua Caserta
17.82 Sant`Angelo a Cupolo Benevento
11.20 Camigliano Caserta
6.14 Napoli Napoli
5.96 Vitulazio Caserta
3.14 Saviano Napoli
2.99 Candida Avellino
2.94 Avellino Avellino
2.90 Sparanise Caserta
2.84 Torchiara Salerno
2.81 Sessa Aurunca Caserta
2.60 Prignano Cilento Salerno

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby pink67 » 09 Oct 2008, 12:47

I'm having no luck for the arrival manifest of Isaia, but i found this record for Isaia Yelle (?) ... I don't have the full subscription to ancestry.com and can't see other details, wldspirit can you help? :D

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Immigration & Emigration

Name: Isaia Yelle
Birth Country: Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York

Estimated Birth Year Date of Arrival
Vessel Port of Departure

Name: Isaia Yelle
Birth: year - Italy
Departure: location
Arrival: date - New York, New York

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby vj » 09 Oct 2008, 13:30

Laura's manifest information:
(imageshack is down...)
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224 ... 1920-2.jpg

Name: Isaia Yelle
Gender: Male
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Birth Country: Italy
Date of Arrival: 11 Jan 1920
Vessel: Italia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Roll: T-14916

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Postby wldspirit » 09 Oct 2008, 14:19

I do have access to the World subscription, but I see that Vj has provided the information. Not much to be had in way of information on the manifest...... :?

I am wondering if given the birthdate provided by poster, 1896,
which is consistent with both draft registrations as well as SSDI data....
and the theory that he immigrated around 1910.....his age would be about
13, 14.....perhaps he and his brothers came thru with a relative, and he is listed under that surname. Another possibility, he came thru with a parent and could be listed as figli, figlio.

I did run thru some manifest last night, and the following names all pertain to the area of interest:
ANGELO
CHRISTOPHER
DANIEL
DAVID
EMIDDIO
EMILIO
JULIUS JOHN
ORESTI
WILLIAM

These are found in New Jersey, Deleware and Pennsylvania.

Have you sent for SSDI application? Checked for naturalization record?
Do you know if he attended a specific church?
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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby wldspirit » 09 Oct 2008, 14:30

and be charged 250 blah!


No way......Since you have it narrowed down to two towns of interest,
you know his full name, and his birthdate, (although parents name would be very helpful) send the following interactive form letter, very simple to use. Send no money unless you recieve notice requesting payment. Include your email with your address. Can't hurt, might help! :wink:

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby pink67 » 09 Oct 2008, 14:54

Thank you Valarie!

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby StarV579 » 10 Oct 2008, 09:20

I cannot thank all of you enough... I mean it is so gracious of all of you to reply with help so quickly Please let me know if i can be of any help to any of you!!!!!

I will check out each lead and come back

thank you a million times!

how do I send for a SSDI application? and your right maybe the ww1 and ww2 draft registrations are not correct.

here's something strange

my grandfather told me that our last name Veltre, used to be Velletri

that it had changed when he immigrated to the US

I also know that Isaia Veltre married Mary Prosceno when he came to Delaware.

One of Isaia's brothers may possibly be by the name of Harry

and it is possible
that Isaias mother and fathers name could be

Giovanni Veltre
and Lisetta Pennisi

still can't find any records of either

thanks for your help

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby StarV579 » 10 Oct 2008, 09:25

Both registration cards match...

his birth date is sept 26, 1896

and same signature and birth dates for both records

confusing

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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby wldspirit » 10 Oct 2008, 13:30

your right maybe the ww1 and ww2 draft registrations are not correct.


I said they were consistent, meaning all birthdates found so far are the same. :wink:

my grandfather told me that our last name Veltre, used to be Velletri.


One of Isaia's brothers may possibly be by the name of Harry
and it is possible that Isaias mother and fathers name could be
Giovanni Veltre
and Lisetta Pennisi


Important clues! Gives members something more to go on. Pink is very good at finding manifest, and perhaps Vj can place them on a census!!
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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby wldspirit » 10 Oct 2008, 16:22

Request for SSI application:

Date of request: 10 Oct 2008

Social Security Administration
OEO FOIA Workgroup
300 N. Green Street
P.O. Box 33022
Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022

Please send me a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card (Form SS-5--Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy) filed by the person listed below.

I obtained this information from the Social Security Death Master file at RootsWeb.com, Inc. who obtained it from the Social Security Death Master file, originally compiled by the Social Security Administration.

My understanding is that the fee is $27, when the Social Security number is provided or $29 if the Social Security number is unknown or incorrect. Enclosed is a check or money order for $___________, made payable to the Social Security Administration.

Thank you for your assistance.

VELTRE, ISAIA
222-03-0998
Birth: 26 Sep 1896
Death: Jun 1963

Sincerely,


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Re: Looking for Veltre information

Postby vj » 10 Oct 2008, 23:15

Hi all!
I agree with Laura & wldspirit, the 1930 census for Harry & Mary Veltre (listed above
in two places :wink: ) may be your Isaia, occupation barber (same as 1918 WWI Card).
The Veltre family may be living with Mary’s brother (?) Frank Prosceno and his family at 907 West Second Street.

Note: based on a recent obituary, the children of Isaia Veltre and Mary Prosceno Veltre were:
Joanne, Concetta, Anna, John, Francis, Yolanda, Josephine, Elizabeth and Anthony.
Is this correct?

Thanks! Valarie

1930 census image
page 2

Repeat of census info:

Home in 1930:
907 West Second Street
Wilmington, New Castle DE

Head Harry Veltre 34, born abt 1896 IT
- married age 20, abt 1916
- immig1910, Al
- barber, barber shop
Wife Mary 29, born abt 1901 DE
- married age 15
children:
Daughter Elizabeth 12, abt 1918 DE
Son John 10, abt 1920 DE
Daughter Concetta 8, abt 1922 DE
Daughter Josephine 6, abt 1924 DE
Daughter Anna 4, abt 1926 DE
Daughter Yolanda 2, abt 1928 DE

Could this be your family?
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Same family in 1920?

1920 census image

Home in 1920:
143 Bright Street
Jersey City Ward 5, Hudson, New Jersey

Head Isaac Valtre 22, abt 1898 IT
- immig 1911, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- barber, barber shop
Wife Mary Valtre 19, abt 1901 DE
Daughter Elizabeth Valtre 2, abt 1918 DE
Son John Valtre 1/12, abt 1919 NJ


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