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Ven Ditti?

Postby danielvenditti » 24 Oct 2008, 21:28

I cant find any information on my family history. Loretto Ven ditti was my great grandfather (he married a Antonetta Lombardi). He came to america in 1907 on a ship from napels. I have letters from our family that are written in italian from Sora, Italy.

When he arrived in america the name some how got changed. IT was chanded to Van Dittie. All my letters from my family from Italy that were written to my Grandfather were signed Ven Ditti. I had my name changed back to the orignal spelling. Can anyone help me get started on tracing my family root?

Any help would be greatly appericated! Thanks all and Hello!

Daniel Ven Ditti

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 21:37

Hello Daniel and Welcome to the Forum !
We'll all be happy to see what we can do to help.

Do you have your g-grandfather's ship manifest from 1907?
Do you have any of your family's US records: census, military, etc?
Where did your family live in the US?

Thanks! Valarie

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby wldspirit » 24 Oct 2008, 21:54

Also helpful would be any known birth years, children of the immigrant ancestor......is Flourence a first name or surname??
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Postby nuccia » 24 Oct 2008, 21:54

To get you started here is his death certificate.


Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988
about Loreto Van Dittie
Name: Loreto Van Dittie
Death Date: 28 Feb 1965
Death Location: Cook County, IL
File Number: 611192
Archive collection name: Cook County Genealogy Records (Deaths)
Archive repository location: Chicago, IL
Archive repository name: Cook County Clerk

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Cook County, Illinois Death Index, 1908-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008. Original data: Cook County Clerk. Cook County Clerk Genealogy Records. Cook County Clerk’s Office, Chicago, IL: Cook County Clerk, 2008.

Which you can order here if you like:

http://www.cookcountygenealogy.com/Sign ... Id=2193676
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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 22:01

wldspirit wrote:Also helpful would be any known birth years, children of the immigrant ancestor......is Flourence a first name or surname??
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I think Loreto's wife's name may have been Antonietta, she along with son James (Vincenzo?) probably arrived after 1910. (to Chgo)
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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby misbris » 24 Oct 2008, 22:27

This is probably Loreto's manifest, but it is mislinked at Ellis Island. Do you have it already?

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 5246180109


Venditti seems to be a common name from Sora.

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 22:27

possible 1911 manifest pg 1
page 2

3 May 1911, SS Berlin, Naples to NY
Lines 25-27

Caterina Lombardi 20
Sister Antonietta Lombardi 31 (abt 1880)
Vincenzo Venditti 8 (abt 1903)
- last residence Sora, Caserta
- in Sora, mother & grandmother Eugenia?
- destination Chicago, IL
- joining brother-in-law, husband, father Loreto Venditti at 949? Grand Ave, Chicago
- born in Sora, Caserta
- note: possible naturalization notation for Vincenzo 18-13584 1/6/43, edit: added 18 = Denver, Colorado

edit: corrected Antonietta's sister's name

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 22:30

misbris wrote:This is probably Loreto's manifest, but it is mislinked at Ellis Island. Do you have it already?

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 5246180109


Venditti seems to be a common name from Sora.


mj :D , I'll go ahead and link it from ancestry
You're right there are even two Loreto's immig in 1907 - one headed to Canada, born only one year apart
The family headed to Chgo may not be the correct one
Valarie

mj’s find:
1907 manifest

Name: Loreto Venditti
Arrival Date: 12 Jun 1907
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Age: 31
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Manuel Calvo
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 19
Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: T715_918
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location: Sora
Page Number: 29

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 22:45

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Loreto Vendetto 42
517 N Morgan St Chicago Cook IL
Born 25 Jan 1876 in Italy
Cabinet Maker for HP Mills, at 401 N Lincoln St
Nearest relative Antonetta Venditti, wife, same address
Signed: Loreto Venditti

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby wldspirit » 24 Oct 2008, 23:25

I can't access this site, connection issues.

May be worthwhile to check for naturalization.....

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 24 Oct 2008, 23:28

Hey Lee!
Checked the site (thanks!)
Nothing under Venditti or Van Dittie, then tried Loreto & Loretto and even
just born in Sora.
I think son James (Vincenzo) moved to Colorado.
Still not sure that this is the correct family, more Loreto Venditti's
keep popping up on ancestry.
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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 25 Oct 2008, 00:07

possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1443 So. Gaylord St
Denver, Denver, Colorado

Head Antonetta Vandike (Vanditti) 49, abt 1881 IT
- owns house $2000
- married
- married age 18, abt 1899
- immig 1911, Al
Son Amerigo 18, abt 1912 IL
Son Elio 14, abt 1916 IL

Head James J Vandike (Vanditti) 26, abt 1904 IT
- rents $20
- married age 22, abt 1925-6
- immig 1911 Al
- stenographer, railroad shop
Wife Florence M 24, abt 1906 Colorado
Daughter Antonetta M 2, abt 1928 Colorado

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same address as 1918 WWI Card (earlier post)

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
517 Morgan (rear), rents
Chicago Ward 17, Cook (Chicago), Illinois

Head Loretto Venditti 42, abt 1878 IT
- immig 1907, Al
Wife Antonetti Venditti 39, abt 1881 IT
- immig 1909, Al
Son James Venditti 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1911, Al
Son Amerigo Venditti 7 11/12, abt 1912 IL
Son Elio Venditti 4 7/12, abt 1915 IL
Son Renado Venditti 2 9/12, abt 1917 Il

Boarder James De Vito 23

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby Biff83 » 25 Oct 2008, 00:43

Possible 1930 census for Loreto Ven Ditti
Age/approx birth year is off but occupation matches 1920 census as does Street
Name: Loreto Vanditto
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Immigration year: 1911, alien

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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby vj » 25 Oct 2008, 00:50

Biff83 wrote:Possible 1930 census for Loreto Ven Ditti
Age/approx birth year is off but occupation matches 1920 census as does Street
Name: Loreto Vanditto
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: White
Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Immigration year: 1911, alien

Biff


Hey Biff :D !
Great find!
According to the 1907 manifest, there was a notation in 1942 - so he had
to be somewhere!
1907 manifest markings: 11-351360-505 11/21?/42, 11=Chicago
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Re: Ven Ditti?

Postby Biff83 » 25 Oct 2008, 01:01

Hi, Valarie!

Good pick up on the naturalization markings from the 1907 manifest.

Interesting that he remained in Chicago while the rest of the family moved west.

Hopefully, Dan will check back in and clarify or post information on Loreto's wife.

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