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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 26 Oct 2008, 19:05

vj wrote:
BenKline wrote:
wldspirit wrote:The following record, if correct, list the exact place of birth:
MONTE ?? FINO-FIRO

Also note the sisters name.......

WW1 Draft Image

wldspirit


Unfortunately, I'm unable to read that. Is there a better picture, or a written out form of that?


larger image 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
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Thank you, but sadly I still cannot read it. I have trouble reading cursive/handwriting of most people, let alone on a computer re-generated.





To everyone: this is all very informative; its interesting that there were two Antonio Croce's who left for America relatively around the same time.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 26 Oct 2008, 19:15

pink67 wrote:Hi!

The sister's first name is Carolina.... but I can't understand the last name....

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May be Di Blasio
There's a 16 Sep 1910 manifest for possible brother Domenico, age 17, joining a brother-in-law Antonio Di Blasio
He's also from Montefino, mother ? Domenica
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 26 Oct 2008, 19:20

Ok, I'm getting a bit confused.

What does Domencia, Di Blasio, etc., have to do with Antonio Croce?
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby pink67 » 26 Oct 2008, 20:29

Found this interesting document about your ancestor (possible Antonio's brother...)

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Vicenzo Croce
Name: Vicenzo Croce
Birth Date: May 1895
Birth Place: Montefino, Provincia, Terano, Italy
RESIDENCE: Palmyra, Penna, Pennsylvania
Passport Issue Date: 26 Jul 1919
Father Name: Donato Croce
Father's Birth Location: Montefino, Italy
Father's Residence: Dead
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

page 1:
[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3708/crocevincenzopassportpaad0.th.jpg]

page 2: with photo
[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1876/crocevincenzopassportpavl6.th.jpg]

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby pink67 » 26 Oct 2008, 20:48

Here is a 1923 arrival manifest for Vincenzo Croce, place of biirth Montefino (in USA before, from 1913 to 1919 - passport issue date) joining his brother Antonio on 1517 N. 6th street, Lebanon, PA. Leaving in Italy, Montefino, his brother Domenico....

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vincenzo Croce
Name: Vincenzo Croce
Arrival Date: 24 Aug 1926
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Dante Alighieri
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Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 29
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3910
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: montefino
Page Number: 63

page 1:
[img=http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/2489/crocevincenzo1923arrivack7.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/485/crocevincenzo1923arrivaki2.th.jpg]

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby pink67 » 26 Oct 2008, 21:53

Vincenzo Croce's enlistment for the first world war:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Vincenzo Croce
Name: Vincenzo Croce
City: Not Stated
County: Dauphin
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 24 May 1895
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1877944
DraftBoard: 2

[img=http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/1154/crocevincenzowwihz4.th.jpg]

and the enlistment for the second world war:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Vincenzo Croce
Name: Vincenzo Croce
Birth Date: 7 May 1895
RESIDENCE: Dauphin, Pennsylvania
Birth: Montefino, Italy
Roll: WW2_2283485

[img=http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4933/crocevincenzowwiiep4.th.jpg]

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 26 Oct 2008, 22:01

BenKline wrote:
vj wrote:
BenKline wrote:
wldspirit wrote:The following record, if correct, list the exact place of birth:
MONTE ?? FINO-FIRO

Also note the sisters name.......

WW1 Draft Image

wldspirit


Unfortunately, I'm unable to read that. Is there a better picture, or a written out form of that?


larger image 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Valarie


Thank you, but sadly I still cannot read it. I have trouble reading cursive/handwriting of most people, let alone on a computer re-generated.

To everyone: this is all very informative; its interesting that there were two Antonio Croce's who left for America relatively around the same time.


Best guess:
World War I Draft Registration Card dated 9 July 1918:

Antonio Croce, 21 years old
Address: 25 North 6th Street, Lebanon, Lebanon, PA
Born 28 February 1897 in Montefino, Teramo, Abruzzo
Alien (not a naturalized citizen)
Citizen of Italy
Father born in Montefino, Teramo, Abruzzo
Employed by Keystone Masonry & Mfg Co
at 15-18 N 6th Street Lebanon PA
Nearest relative: Sister Caroline Di Blasio
at 25 North 6th Street, Lebanon
---

If you think this is your Antonio, the manifests (and other records) found for Domenico & Vincenzo
would indicate that they were his brothers, and Caroline, his sister.
Birth location would be Montefino, Teramo, Abruzzo
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(really great finds Laura!)
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 27 Oct 2008, 00:59

Anyway to find the death dates for Vincenzo, et cetera?

And to everyone: Thank you very, very, very much. This means an incredible amount to me.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby pink67 » 27 Oct 2008, 08:20

vj wrote:If you think this is your Antonio, the manifests (and other records) found for Domenico & Vincenzo
would indicate that they were his brothers, and Caroline, his sister.
Birth location would be Montefino, Teramo, Abruzzo
Valarie

(really great finds Laura!)


I agree with Valarie, I think the correct arrival manifest for Antonio is the one of 1914:


vj wrote:Hi!
This may not be the correct manifest but it matches the birth location on wldspirit’s WWI Card find…

1914 manifest
page 2
Born in Montefino (Teramo, Abruzzo)
edit: added
- 17 yrs old, single
- in Montefino, mother Anna Domenica
- destination Palmyra, PA
- joining brother Domenico
1914 special inquiry page

According to this possible 1930 census
he arrived abt 1915


However, Vincenzo Croce did various trip between U.S. and Italy, I found these others:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vincenzo Croci
Name: Vincenzo Croci
Arrival Date: 27 Apr 1931
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Saturnia
Search Ship Database: View the Saturnia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 27
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4950
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: montefino
Page Number: 83

leaving in Italy (Montefino) his wife Anna Croci, returning to his home in Lebanon PA

page 1:
[img=http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9595/crocevincenzo1931arrivaxb3.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8623/crocevincenzo1931arrivabo0.th.jpg]


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vincenso Croce
Name: Vincenso Croce
Arrival Date: 26 May 1947
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Marine Shark
Search Ship Database: Search the Marine Shark in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 9
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_7365
Page Number: 55

[img=http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7809/crocevincenzo1947arrivaap5.th.jpg]

These are his death dates:

Social Security Death Index
about Vincenzo Croce
Name: Vincenzo Croce
SSN: 175-XX-XXXX
Last Residence: 700 (U.S. Consulate), Italy
Born: 7 May 1895
Died: Apr 1981
State (Year) SSN issued: Pennsylvania (Before 1951 )

He died in Italy....

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 27 Oct 2008, 14:31

Any reason you believe its the 1914 trip (for Antonio) over the 12.9.11 trip that I believe?
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 14:37

This Antonio Croce was son of Teresina Leone and Bartolomeo Croce


Each manifest gives specific info depending on year, if your manifest is correct, then the names of the parents are indicated above.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 14:41

Known parent: Donato Croce (no known information)
Known parent: Anna Ranalli [Croce] (no known information)


Each record must be anyalyzed for clues and confirmation, IF your manifest find for Antonio is correct, then the parents you have listed in the quote are wrong??
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 27 Oct 2008, 14:52

I'm sorry, your greatly confusing me here wldspirit. You used double-negatives in your sentence and I don't understand what you mean.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 15:03

Information provided by you:

Known parent: Donato Croce
Known parent: Anna Ranalli [Croce]



Manifest comparison:


1914 manifest
page 2
Born in Montefino (Teramo, Abruzzo)
edit: added
- 17 yrs old, single
- in Montefino, mother Anna Domenica
- destination Palmyra, PA
- joining brother Domenico
1914 special inquiry page

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
Name: Antonio Croce
Arrival Date: 9 Dec 1911
Age: 14 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Ancona
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Bartolomeo Croce
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Fugento, Italy
son of Teresina Leone and Bartolomeo Croce

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 27 Oct 2008, 15:09

According to my grandfather, his father (Antonio) was coming to America to join his UNCLE Bartholomew (English) (Bartolomeo - Italian), that his FATHER was Danato.
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