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How to or where do we go

Postby vince/traci » 27 Oct 2008, 04:32

Hello! Thank you for the wonderful site! We have the patriarch who came from Canipofeliee, Sicily, Italy - ended up in California City, PA. That was Salvatore Vavonese DOB 11/07/1888 DOD 07/1976 who married Nunzia (Nancy) Vavonese (maiden name possibly Gugliuzza or Gugluzzi?). We're not sure if she was here first - according to her SS# it is possible. They had 8 children - Joe, Anthony, Frank, Kathryn, Angelo, Anna, Donna, and Virginia. Of those 8 children, how do we find their spouses and children? Thanks for any input, you can reply to this message or email us!
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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby liviomoreno » 27 Oct 2008, 06:48

I believe that the correct spelling of the town of origin of your patriarch is Campofelice. In the Province of Palermo there are two towns (villages):
Campofelice di Roccella and Campofelice di Fitalia.

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby nazca » 27 Oct 2008, 08:12

Hi Vince & Traci, wellcome to the forum
on italian white pages (www.paginebianche.it) i found 5 Gugliuzza in Campofelice di Roccella (i heard this surname in province of Palermo, not gugluzzi)
this is the official website town hall of campofelice di roccella (it is only in italian):

http://www.comune.campofelicediroccella.pa.it/

best regards
I'm searching lost relatives and descendant of my greatgrandfather Vincenzo Genualdi (or Gennaldi or Genuardi) and my greatgrandmother Concetta Davola (their sons: Angela, Carmela, Antonio, Bartolomeo, Ernesto, Simone, Riccardo, Maria) went in Chicago,Ill., and New Orleans, in 1880-1920 from Sicily. Other family related : Jacobucci or Jacopucci (from Central Italy).

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 13:05

Have you placed the family on any US records?
Do you know an approximate year of birth for wife and children?
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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby pink67 » 27 Oct 2008, 13:06

hi Vince and Tracy...

I found that Vavanese possible is not the right spell of the last name because in italy it doesn't exist....
Could it be Veronese???

I found an arrival manifest for a Salvatore Veronese, from Campofelice, age 11, travelling with his brother? Giuseppe joining their father Giuseppe Veronese in Pittsburg...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Salvatore Veronese
Name: Salvatore Veronese
Arrival Date: 2 Mar 1900
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 11
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Kaiser Wilhelm II
Search Ship Database: Search the Kaiser Wilhelm II in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 11
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_104
Page Number: 63

[img=http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/2334/veronesesalvatore1900arbi0.th.jpg]

Do you have the correct arrival manifest for Salvatore?

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 13:12

The record shows birthplace of Campofelice:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Salvatore Bavanese
City: Not Stated
County: Washington
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Palermo;Italy
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1888
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1926885
DraftBoard: 4

But the spelling of VAVONESE, only turns up Fortunata.
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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby pink67 » 27 Oct 2008, 13:48

vince/traci wrote: They had 8 children - Joe, Anthony, Frank, Kathryn, Angelo, Anna, Donna, and Virginia.


Lee, what do you think about this 1920 census?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Thomas Bovin
Name: Thomas Bovin 8O
[Thomas Bevier]
Home in 1920: California, Washington, Pennsylvania
Age: 30 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Nunzia
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1980
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 990
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bovin 30 head, immigr. year 1900
Nunzia Bovin 23 wife, immigr. year 1916
Joseph Bovin 5 son born in Pa
Tony Bovin 3 9/12 son, born in Pa
Frank Bovin 7/12 son, born in Pa

[img=http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1757/bivinithomas1920censustz8.th.jpg][img=http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif]

Perhaps Bavanese ws mispelled in Bovin?

Laura :?

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 14:11

Possible, but for the Thomas???
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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby Biff83 » 27 Oct 2008, 16:47

Your best bet would be to see if you can locate obituaries for any of the family members. I believe these are the SSDI records for Salvatore and Nunzia. The obituary notices in the Syracuse papers might have information on their children/grandchildren and daughter/son in laws.

Name: Salvatore Vavonese
SSN: 134-12-xxxx
Last Residence: 13203 Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States of America
Born: 7 Nov 1888
Died: Jul 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951

Name: Nunzia Vavonese
SSN: 068-52-xxxx
Last Residence: 13203 Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States of America
Born: 14 Dec 1896
Died: Feb 1974
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1973 )

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby vj » 27 Oct 2008, 18:28

pink67 wrote:
vince/traci wrote: They had 8 children - Joe, Anthony, Frank, Kathryn, Angelo, Anna, Donna, and Virginia.


Lee, what do you think about this 1920 census?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Thomas Bovin
Name: Thomas Bovin 8O
[Thomas Bevier]
Home in 1920: California, Washington, Pennsylvania
Age: 30 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Nunzia
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1980
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 990
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bovin 30 head, immigr. year 1900
Nunzia Bovin 23 wife, immigr. year 1916
Joseph Bovin 5 son born in Pa
Tony Bovin 3 9/12 son, born in Pa
Frank Bovin 7/12 son, born in Pa

[img=http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1757/bivinithomas1920censustz8.th.jpg][img=http://img148.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif]

Perhaps Bavanese ws mispelled in Bovin?

Laura :?


Re: Laura’s 1920 census find :D
I guess it may be possible that Salvatore chose the name ‘Tom’
Fortunato may be related, Tom Vavonese was a witness.
Both living in California City.

Fortunato’s Petition for Naturalization

Publication Number: M1537
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. District Court, 1820-1930, and Circuit Court, 1820-1911, for the Western District of Pennsylvania
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit and District Courts, Oct 1820-Sep 3, 1906
Year: 1911
Date: 16 Jan 1911
Immigrant Full Name: Fortunato Vavonese
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness Full Name: Tom Vavonese
Year Immigrated: 1901

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 18:32

The document speaks for itself......
Maybe he didn't like the nickname for Salvatore!!!! :lol:
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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby vj » 27 Oct 2008, 18:52

Found Fortunato’s manifest, no Salvatore
Note: next name on the manifest is Gugliuzza
(possible surname of Salvatore’s wife Nunzia)
1st several lines headed to Pittsburgh

1901 manifest
Line 1

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby vj » 27 Oct 2008, 18:58

Hate to do this without more information, but for possible later connection

Nunzia Gugliuzza, possible wife of Salvatore Vavonese
traveling with mother and siblings

1912 manifest
page 2

27 August 1912 SS Ancona, Palermo to NY
Lines 3-5
Messina Anna 41 (abt 1871)
Gugliuzza Nunzia 16 (abt 1896)
Gugliuzza Antonina 12 (abt 1900)
- last residence Sicily Campobello
(Campobello di Mazara?, Trapani or Campobello di Licata?, Agrigento, or ??)
edit: added best guess at mother's name
- in Campobello, mother Antonia Pusateri
- destination Pittsburgh PA
- joining husband/father Antonio Gugliuzza
- born in Campofelice Sicily

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby vj » 27 Oct 2008, 22:07

wldspirit wrote:The document speaks for itself......
Maybe he didn't like the nickname for Salvatore!!!! :lol:
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Or he liked his middle name better?

Salvatore’s middle initial ‘T’

Partial obituaries:

Syracuse Herald-Journal (Newspaper) - July 20, 1976
Salvatore T Vavonese 87 of 637 Catherine St died day in St Joseph's Hospital ...

Post-Standard, The (Newspaper) - July 20, 1976, Syracuse, New York
Vavonese Salvatore T of 637 Catherine St died at St Joseph's hospital
Mr Vavonese was born in Italy

Syracuse Herald-Journal (Newspaper) - July 21, 1976
SALVATORE T VAVONESE age 87 years 637 Catherine St on July 19 1976 In St ...
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Post-Standard, The (Newspaper) - March 2, 1974, Syracuse, New York
VAVONESE Mrs Nunzia age 77 ot 637 Catherine on February 1974 in St ...

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Re: How to or where do we go

Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2008, 23:05

Tommaso.....Tommasino.......
works for me!!
Great find....... :wink:
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