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need translation what does last name say on ship manifest!

Postby justinfrombklyn » 01 Dec 2008, 09:02

i need someone to translate this document in full details

i need to know the last name on line 16

giovanna urgola what is the last name crossed out and next to it it looks like greba or greha line 15 is giovanni urgola

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0075&show=\\192.168.4.227\images\T715-1985\T715-19850088.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.4.227\IMAGES\T715-1985\T715-19850089.TIF

its listed as novann ngota

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Postby justinfrombklyn » 01 Dec 2008, 09:04

also the back page what does it say they are going to son guiseppe 329 e12th st then what does joseph squality mean next to it can someone translate that

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http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0075&show=\\192.168.4.227\images\T715-1985\T715-19850089.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.4.227\IMAGES\T715-1985\T715-19850089.TIF
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Re: need translation what does last name say on ship manifes

Postby uantiti » 01 Dec 2008, 10:34

Hi,
to me there is no last name as it's the same of the one above. It looks like they wrote "nephew" and then correted in "grandchild". So she was Giovanna Urgola, 10 years old, travelling with her grandfather Giovanni Urgola. In fact on the second page, Giovanni Urgola is going to his son "Giuseppe" and the child is going to her father. The address is partially crossed out. The other numbers (320 6 124) probably refer to naturalization as they look to have been added afterwards. Same thing for the numbers added on the first page and also the sentence which seem to say something like "cert" "quality" and "wash off". I think other members will interprete better.

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Re: need translation what does last name say on ship manifes

Postby pink67 » 01 Dec 2008, 11:15

Hi,

maybe the address could be 329 E 12 th [329 East 12th Street].....

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Re: need translation what does last name say on ship manifes

Postby Biff83 » 01 Dec 2008, 18:39

justinfrombklyn wrote:also the back page what does it say they are going to son guiseppe 329 e12th st then what does joseph squality mean next to it can someone translate that

thanks

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0075&show=\\192.168.4.227\images\T715-1985\T715-19850089.TIF&origFN=\\192.168.4.227\IMAGES\T715-1985\T715-19850089.TIF


If you check on the far left hand page of the manifest, you'll see "ADMITTED" stamped by the two names which means that they were detained but admitted later. The second word in the phrase in question next to the address on the right hand image of the manifest is "Senility" which was the reason for the detention.

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Re: need translation what does last name say on ship manifes

Postby Joannsalvo » 02 Dec 2008, 02:08

It may say: Drs cert senility.
Doctor's certification, senility.
I don't know what the other means.


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