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Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby JMFL » 02 Dec 2008, 01:45

Hi to all,

My friend has asked me to post to this list as she doesn't have access to a computer at the moment.


Her dad was born in the US and is 96 years old. His name is Dante Sackett. His father was born in Italy, possibly Venice or Lugoroni and he was a well known mural artist in the US back in the day. I think he did some major monuments in DC or possibly NYC. His name was

Giovanni Sacchetti di Piance or
Giovanni Sacchetti di Pianci or
Giovanni Sacchetti di Pians or
sometimes he signed his name as
Giovanni Sacchetti or
Giovianni Sacchetti.

That's all I know at the moment. If anyone can help me get more info to help her get more info that would be great. I don't even know where in the US Dante lived, I think it would be NY or NJ or PA area as he still has the accent even though he has been living in FL for many years.

Thanks for the help,
JMFL

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby PeterTimber » 02 Dec 2008, 05:58

I came across a Giovanni Saccheti arriving at NYC on May 12, 1897 sailing from Genova at age 20. (that would make his birth year 1877). His profession is listed as sculptor. The record of his arrivsal is in the www.castlegarden.com website which does not furnish his place of origin in Italy nor where he was destined to live in the USA. Please let me know if this information is of value. =Peter=

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 09:42

Hi JMFL,

this could be a possible 1930 census for Giovanni's family:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Gioviani Sackett
Name: Gioviani Sackett
Home in 1930: Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Dosolina
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Gioviani Sackett 54 head, year of imm. 1897, occupation ornamental sculptor
Dosolina Sackett 45 wife, year of imm. 1900
Primo Sackett 25 son
Lydia Sackett 21 daughter
Rena Sackett 19 daughter
George Sackett 17 son
Lola Sackett 15 daughter
Dante Sackett 12 son
Maria Sackett 7 daughter

all child born in New Jersey

page 1:
[img=http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5961/sackettgiovanni1930censly0.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6969/sackettigiovanni1930cendr8.th.jpg]

So the record for Giovanni Sacchetti found by PeterTimber is correct... (immigration in 1897)

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 09:49

Here is Giovanni's 1897 arrival manifest from the site Ancestry.com:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giovanni Saetes
Name: Giovanni Saetes on the manifest: Sachet
Arrival Date: 12 May 1897
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Ems
Search Ship Database: Search the Ems in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_673
Page Number: B

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[img=http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9906/sachetgiovanni1897arrivpi1.th.jpg]

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 10:07

8O

1910 United States Federal Census
about Giovanni S Pious
Name: Giovanni S Pious
[Giovanni S Pians]
Age in 1910: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Desolina
Home in 1910: Perth Amboy Ward 5, Middlesex, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Giovanni S Pious 33 occupation: modeller in a terracotta Pottery
Desolina Pious 26
Primo Pious 5
Dante Pious 3
Lidia Pious 1

on the manifest the name seems Primo Giovanni S. :?:
Primo and Giovanni are first names....

here the image:
[img=http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/904/sacchetgiovanni1910censdz0.th.jpg]

Laura

Possible the correct last name was Sacchet, tipical of the north of Italy, especially Veneto region...

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 10:36

From Ancestry.com:

1920 United States Federal Census
about John Saceket
Name: John Saceket
[Jolan Saceket]
Home in 1920: Perth Amboy Ward 6, Middlesex, New Jersey
Age: 44 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1897
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 113
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Saceket 44
Caroline Saceket 35
Prima Saceket 15
Lula Saceket 10
Rina Saceket 9
George Saceket 7
Lola Saceket 5
Danie Saceket 1 10/12

page 1:
[img=http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/875/sacchetgiovanni1920censyb2.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/438/sacchetgiovanni1920censpf6.th.jpg]

Laura :D

this is a very helpful site to see the distribution of the surnames in Italy:

http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognom ... eneto.html

if you insert the last name Sacchet in the Veneto Region you'll find that the first towns where the Lastname is mostly present are :

132.30 Castellavazzo Belluno
96.90 Longarone Belluno
77.81 Cesiomaggiore Belluno
62.40 Feltre Belluno

JMFL wrote:His father was born in Italy, possibly Venice or Lugoroni


maybe the right birth place was Longarone, Belluno Province, Veneto region...

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 11:16

Death dates for the first son Primo:

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Primo Peter Sacket
Name: Primo Peter Sacket
Social Security #:
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1904
Birthplace: New Jersey
Death Date: 20 Dec 1988
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Dellotto

I found this interesting 1900 census for a Desolina De lotto....

1900 United States Federal Census
about Dosolone De Lotto
Name: Dosolone De Lotto
[Dosolone Delotto]
Home in 1900: Acquackanonk, Passaic, New Jersey
Age: 15
Birth Date: Jan 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1899
Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Name: Mary
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Acquackanonk Township, Passaic, New Jersey
Occupation: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary De Lotto 60 widowed, year of imm. 1892
John De Lotto 21 son, born in IT, year of imm. 1899
Teresa De Lotto 19 daughter, year of imm. 1899
Dosolone De Lotto 15 daughter, year of imm. 1899
Giuditta De Lotto 13 daughter, year of imm. 1899

image:
[img=http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7/delottodesolina1900censdj4.th.jpg]


Social Security Death Index
about Dosolina Sacket
Name: Dosolina Sacket
SSN: 147-XX-XXXX
Last Residence: 08861 Perth Amboy, Middlesex, New Jersey, United States of America
Born: 2 Aug 1884
Died: Jun 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1963)

and here is Dosolina De Lotto arrival in 1900:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Dussolina Delotta
Name: Dussolina Delotta
Arrival Date: 5 May 1900
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: La Champagne
Search Ship Database: View the La Champagne in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 21
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_119
Page Number: 197

coming form Vito Di Cadore, Belluno Province, Veneto region :wink:

Image:
[img=http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1757/delottodosolina1900arritw4.th.jpg]

you can see here how many De Lotto are in Veneto region:

The "de lotto" surname occours in 12 out of 580 towns.


60.84 San Vito di Cadore Belluno
9.52 Padova Padova
9.06 Vedelago Treviso
7.05 Pieve di Cadore Belluno
5.48 Casale sul Sile Treviso
2.74 San Pietro di Feletto Treviso
2.46 Conegliano Treviso
2.43 Treviso Treviso
2.43 Vittorio Veneto Treviso
2.41 Auronzo di Cadore Belluno
2.40 Feltre Belluno
2.22 Borca di Cadore Belluno


Laura :D

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 11:52

The Sacchet family is growing... :wink:

here is the arrival manifst for Pietro Sacchet (Giovanni's father??) travelling with his wife Maddalena and their child, joining Giovanni in Perth Amboy, NJ.... All coming from Longarone, Belluno Province, Veneto region :D

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Pietro Sacchet
Name: Pietro Sacchet
Arrival Date: 9 Apr 1906
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Age: 55
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: La Gascogne
Search Ship Database: View the La Gascogne in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 1
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_689
Page Number: 30

image:
[img=http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9305/sacchetpietroarrival190cu5.th.jpg]


child's names: Angela age 17, Erminia 13, Marcellina 10, Guido 9, Tiziano 5....

Laura :!:


Now you can be sure that Giovanni's birth place was Longarone...

here is another brother of Giovanni Sacchet:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Michelangelo Sachet
Name: Michelangelo Sachet
Arrival Date: 23 Apr 1904
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: La Savoie
Search Ship Database: View the La Savoie in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 25
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_449
Page Number: 24

joining his brother Giov(anni) in Perth Amboy....

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[img=http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/5976/sacchetmichelangeloarrijg7.th.jpg]

edit to add correction for Pietro Sacchet (possible Giovanni's father)

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 02 Dec 2008, 15:12

This is a second arrival in U.S. for Pietro and Maddalena (Giovanni's parents) on 1913:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Pietro Sacchet
Name: Pietro Sacchet
Arrival Date: 21 Feb 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 59
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: France
Search Ship Database: View the France in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 3
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2017
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: longarone
Page Number: 165

page 1:
[img=http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1213/sacchetpietro1913arrivakn1.th.jpg]

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them both were joining their son Giovanni Sacchet living in Perth Amboy, NJ... Leaving in Italy (Longarone) their Daughter Maria Imberti

some informations for Longarone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longarone

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby JMFL » 02 Dec 2008, 19:02

I will meet with Carolina and her dad, Dante, tonight at our intro to Italian lessons. I can't wait to show her all the great information you have all been able to uncover.

I am amazed at the wealth of TALENT on this forum. Thank you so much for responding to this post and also for all the contributions you have made in the past. You've made my day!

I'll let you know what Carolina and Dante say about your research,

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 03 Dec 2008, 07:47

Thank you! :D

Let us know what Carolina and Dante say about the records.. :wink:
I hope it's the right family...
I found another arrival manifest for Giovanni Sacchet in 1903...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giovanni Sachett
Name: Giovanni Sachett
Arrival Date: 1 Mar 1903
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: La Savoie
Search Ship Database: View the La Savoie in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_326
Page Number: 276

Occupation Sculptor..... possible he did another trip to Italy...

[img=http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1412/sacchetgiovanni1903arrida7.th.jpg]

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby JMFL » 22 Dec 2008, 19:05

Sorry for the delay in posting back about this. Dante, who is 90 and his daughter, Carolina, were both overwhelmed with the wealth of info that this list was able to supply to them. They were still piecing the information together when I last saw them on the 9th. I won't see them again until after the new year. By then, perhaps they will have new questions, or maybe some more details as they share the info you gave me with some of their other relatives.

Thanks again for your help, it was fun to see the pieces fall into place.
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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby JMFL » 17 Jun 2009, 21:55

Just wanted to sign on and give another HUGE thank you to this great group! My friend Carolina had asked me info about her father's family last year. I posted to this forum and the information each of you supplied was just amazing. My friend called me yesterday in tears. She left this morning for Italy to visit with the relatives she has recently come to know. She had planned to take the information that you had suppled to me with her to Italy to show to the new found relatives.

Somehow in all the chaos that goes into an overseas paking trip, the information packet was lost. She spent 6 days searching in desparation for it before she called me. I didn't think I would find the information again, but I did a search on this forum and saw that all the information was still there. Amazing. You folks are so helpful in ways you may never know.

Just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate all of you.
Thanks again,
JM

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Re: Artist Giovanni Sachetti

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 06:08

Hi JM
I'm very happy for your friend!! :D
Tell her that I whish a very good stay here in Italy!
Thank you for your nice words....
Laura


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