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Filomena Capaldi husband not known mystery to be solved

Postby stuartcapaldi » 10 Dec 2008, 14:05

I have had excellent succes from this forum and have recently found numerous members of my family who emigrated to USA and the assistance given is much appreciated.

I thought by contacting long lost cousins I would solve the problem but alas they do not know the answer so I am now searching on their behalf.

Filomena Capaldi sister of Achille Capaldi arrived in USA circa 1913 with her two children Angeline and Leondra (Leo).

We do not know if she travelled with or without the children's father. She went to live in Chicago with her sister Maria DeSalvi.

Angeline and Leondra were both called Capaldi. why? was her husband also Capaldi? (not unusual in San Giuseppe Picinisco)

Filomena was born circa 1880 in Munich Germany whilst her parents were living there but returned to Italy circa 1882

I am grateful for any information that may be given.

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Re: Filomena Capaldi husband not known family mystery to be

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Dec 2008, 15:20

have you thought abut applying for childrens birth certificate extracts so that you can see who is listed as father? =Peter=

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Postby nuccia » 10 Dec 2008, 16:33

Women in Italy retain their maiden name so when traveling they would use it. The occasional time they would use their married name if traveling with their husband.


If she traveled under her maiden name, below it they will often write daughter or son and then the first name giving the illusion that the children had her surname. This may have happened here.


Is it possible for you to post the manifest for us to look at?
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Postby stuartcapaldi » 10 Dec 2008, 20:00

Both Angeline and Leo were born in Italy but cannot find out where.

The descendants of Leo Capaldi do not know the father's name and are all called Capaldi

Did the father travel with them or did they travel alone with only their mother?

I have been unable to obtain any information as yet from Picinisco or villa Latina records showing marriage births etc.
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Postby pink67 » 10 Dec 2008, 20:34

Hi Stuart,

I'm a little asthonished... 8O
I found this very interesting record for Filomena Capaldi:

Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957
about Filemona Capaldi
Name: Filemona Capaldi
Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1919
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1893
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: Italian

Port of Arrival: Laredo, Texas, USA
Accompanied by: Husband Ernesto Mesa; Child Angelica Mesa; Child Leondro Mesa; Child Manuel Mesa
Record has photo?: No

last residence: Mexico....

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Postby nuccia » 10 Dec 2008, 20:44

Nice find Laura. It is very interesting, isn't it?
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Postby pink67 » 10 Dec 2008, 20:48

Ciao Nuccia! :D

Yes, it's very interesting... Filomena had italian parents, was born in Germany, lived (and possible married Ernesto in Mexico), travelled to Illinois and ...?
What an "international" life!!!

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Postby nuccia » 10 Dec 2008, 20:52

Looks like Ernesto also may have registered for the Civilian draft..


WWI Civilian Draft Registrations
about Ernesto Mesa
Name: Mesa, Ernesto
Birth Date: Abt 1895
Birth Place: Mexico City Mexico
City/County: Wilmington# 4
State: DE

and his manifest also shows Chicago.


Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957
about Ernesto Mesa
Name: Ernesto Mesa
Arrival Date: 2 Jun 1919
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1893
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Mexican (Latino)

Port of Arrival: Laredo, Texas, USA
Record has photo?: No

Sorry. I can't link the image right now. :(

We should have such a cosmopolitan life, eh?
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Postby pink67 » 10 Dec 2008, 20:55

Possible Angelina death dates?

Social Security Death Index
about Angeline C. Mesi
Name: Angeline C. Mesi
SSN: 337-XX-XXXX
Last Residence: 60452 Oak Forest, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 5 Sep 1912
Died: 6 Feb 1991
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)


Maybe the "C" is for Capaldi???

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Postby pink67 » 10 Dec 2008, 21:20

Here is another arrival for Ernesto Meza....

Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957
about Ernesto Meza
Name: Ernesto Meza
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1948
Age: 55
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1892
Gender: Male

Airline: American Airlines
Port of Arrival: San Antonio, Texas, USA
Departure Contact: Wife Filimona Meza
Record has photo?: No

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Postby stuartcapaldi » 10 Dec 2008, 23:31

Excellent bits of information from you all.

Some pieces fit into the jigsaw some do not.

Ernesto Meza was her second husband and father to Carmela and Manuelle.

Carmela, step sister to Angeline and Leondra Capaldi, is currently living in USA but does not have a good memory of events so far back.

Carmela was born in Chicago circa 1919 Manuelle in Mexico ?

When the family left Chicago for Mexico, Angeline Capaldi remained with her aunt Maria DeSalvi nee Capaldi and is in their home at the 1930 USA census.

Angeline died in 2003 aged 92 in Florida therefore she is not the Angelica Meza that was found.

Ernesto Meza may have been born in Spain and then moved to Mexico before coming into USA

Filomena's age seems to be about 10 years too young, however, you definitely have the correct family and the connection with Mexico is confirmed.

The father of Angeline & Leondra is still in question and your assistance is more than welcome

Thanks
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Postby pink67 » 11 Dec 2008, 07:35

Hi Stuart!

thank you for the update....
Where did Filomena died?

Do you know when Filomena moved to Mexico from Chicago?

the record I found shows Filomena (and her family) going to Chicago from Mexico on June 1919.... child were:
Angelica age 7 (aprox year of birth 1912)
Leandro age 6 (aprox year of birth 1913)
Emanuel age 2 (aprox year of birth 1917)

I think that this Angelica was Angelina... year of birth matches with the 1930 census you found... (Angelina living with her uncle and aunt Salvi)
Possible Emanuel was born in Mexico to Ernesto while Angelica and Leandro could have been born in Italy?....
If it's so why we can't find their Arrival in U.S. :? ?

Do you know when and where Carmela was born?

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Postby pink67 » 11 Dec 2008, 07:57

:D I forgot .....

Leandro and Emanuel are both male first names....

Laura :!:

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Postby suanj » 11 Dec 2008, 11:04

another trip:

Border Crossings: From Mexico to U.S., 1903-1957
about Ernesto Meza
Name: Ernesto Meza
Arrival Date: 5 Jan 1948
Age: 55
Birth Date: 26 Aug 1892
Gender: Male

Airline: American Airlines
Port of Arrival: San Antonio, Texas, USA
Departure Contact: Wife Filimona Meza
Record has photo?: No


Ernesto Meza/mesa born the 26 aug 1892; wife Filomena Meza;
last time in USA:may 1919;
final destination: 10104 4th st Brooklyn, NY, USA

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Postby stuartcapaldi » 11 Dec 2008, 21:07

Thanks for all the info.

I am awaiting some further information from my cousins in USA, always a time lag, as I am in Scotland. It all seems to fit in and I am trying to verify the chronology of the events.

Carmela is 88 living in USA but not good on memory, however she was born in Chicago circa 1920 so yes this is the family leaving Mexico to go to Chicago.

The two older chidren are not Ernesto Meza's and later kept the name Capaldi.

As agreed, where were they between 1913 and 1919? Did they arrive in USA with or without their father? Where did Filomena meet and marry Ernesto? USA or Mexico?

The 1948 record is Ernesto returning from a visit to Mexico and going home to Brooklyn? His grand daughter was born in Brooklyn circa 1942

Still searching for Angeline and Leo's father any more details would be exceedingly helpful.

thanks all
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