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Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 13 Dec 2008, 13:01



Looking for information on a Fretti from way back who was a high ranking Roman Catholic-Bishop or Pope.

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby PeterTimber » 13 Dec 2008, 18:03

There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=

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Postby MiaAna » 13 Dec 2008, 20:24

PeterTimber wrote:There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=
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He came from Milan and not sure of any dates.

I briefly looked into nobility the other day before my mother told me about that, so I wasn't looking for Surnames of Popes. I was looking for Fretti from government.

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Postby MiaAna » 13 Dec 2008, 23:45

MiaAna wrote:
PeterTimber wrote:There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=
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He came from Milan and not sure of any dates.

I briefly looked into nobility the other day before my mother told me about that, so I wasn't looking for Surnames of Popes. I was looking for Fretti from government.
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You say Fretti is not listed as an Italian surname. What is it? And what list are you referring to? The Fretti's come from Milan.

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Postby MiaAna » 13 Dec 2008, 23:57

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PeterTimber wrote:There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=
Peter,
He came from Milan and not sure of any dates.

I briefly looked into nobility the other day before my mother told me about that, so I wasn't looking for Surnames of Popes. I was looking for Fretti from government.
Peter,
You say Fretti is not listed as an Italian surname. What is it? And what list are you referring to? The Fretti's come from Milan.
Peter,
This is from a reply on another site from a researcher in Italy.

http://cognome.alfemminile.com/w/cognom ... retti.html

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 13 Dec 2008, 23:58

Peter,

Sorry that link is broken.

here you are:

http://cognome.alfemminile.com/w/cognom ... retti.html

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby elba » 14 Dec 2008, 00:12

PeterTimber wrote:There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=


I think you will find that this is not in fact the case...
>Cognome Italiano - Fretti<

This is the name nearest to Fretti in the list of Popes...
>Pope Pius 9th< Unlikely to be him...
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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 14 Dec 2008, 00:14

Peter,
What list for surnames are you referring to?

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby elba » 14 Dec 2008, 00:33

Here are three heraldic devices for the name Fretti in Lombardia:

>FRETTI coat of arms<
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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 14 Dec 2008, 00:37

elba wrote:Here are three heraldic devices for the name Fretti in Lombardia:

>FRETTI coat of arms<
Thanks Elba for the references.

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby nuccia » 14 Dec 2008, 00:52

PeterTimber wrote:There is no immediate reference to fretti as part of the RomanCatholic Hierarchy...can you tell us where he served the church or where he came from..something more so we can identify him. Fretti is not isted as an Italian surname. =Peter=


Fretti is not listed as an Italian surname in the Church? The sites listed above by the others definitely show its an Italian surname so maybe you were referring to something else?
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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby nuccia » 14 Dec 2008, 00:54

I'm sorry Mary. I didn't see you asked the same question first! I forgot to refresh my page. :oops:
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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 14 Dec 2008, 01:02

Thanks Nuccia,

After perusing the Polk City Directories and Census from turn of the 20th century, I wondered whether the notetakers heard and spelled the name Fretti and whether it was Fretti or Feretti or whatever. Anyway, I need more information from family familiar with this.

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby PeterTimber » 14 Dec 2008, 04:18

The Italian Surname Dictionary by Emidio De Felice(DIZIONARIO DEI COGONMI ITALIANI) is the reference to the non listing of the surname FRETTI as an Italian surname. it is possible the surname was either local in origin or imported from abroad and italianized.

There may be many persons residing in Italy with this surname but the origin of the surname is not listed as being Italian in origin. =Peter=

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Re: Pontiff of the surname Fretti?

Postby MiaAna » 14 Dec 2008, 04:23

PeterTimber wrote:The Italian Surname Dictionary by Emidio De Felice(DIZIONARIO DEI COGONMI ITALIANI) is the reference to the non listing of the surname FRETTI as an Italian surname. it is possible the surname was either local in origin or imported from abroad and italianized.

There may be many persons residing in Italy with this surname but the origin of the surname is not listed as being Italian in origin. =Peter=
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