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About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigration

Postby donnawright » 11 Jan 2009, 21:22

I found my grandmother, my father, aunt, and uncle on ellisisland.org who immigrated to USA in 1924. I was not able to find my grandfather who immigrated in 1912 according to the 1930 census. I checked ellisisland, castle garden, boston. I don't know where else to look for his immigration record. Anyone have any ideas here? Missing record is for Liberato Biagianti.

Also, my dad told us he came from Pitigliano, but the ellisisland record shows them coming from Sorano. I want to send for their records but want to pinpoint the locale. Any insight on these two locations and why my dad clearly stated Pitigliano but their ellisisland mani[marq=left]fest shows Sorano?

I also obtained Liberato's obit which gives names of his parents. Please provide guidelines on records requests from comunes and/or parishes. Example: how many can I request, and how to pay.

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby pink67 » 11 Jan 2009, 21:42

Hi Donna,

here is:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Liberato Biangianti
Name: Liberato Biangianti
Arrival Date: 16 May 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Calabria
Search Ship Database: Search the Calabria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 7
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2078
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: sarano
Page Number: 158

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby BillieDeKid » 11 Jan 2009, 21:59

Edit post.

You beat me to it Laura :D Nice find.

Elizabeth

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby donnawright » 11 Jan 2009, 23:03

Pink67 Thank you. where did you find that? I went to ellisland.org and looked under the ship Calabria, and there it was. I want to double check my investigational techniques with you, if I may. I DID look in ellisland.org under first name Liberato and found absolutely nothing. Clarify if you have any comment for future investigation. I can't imagine! My grandfather arrived May 16, 1913. His youngest son was born in June. The rest of the family came in 1924. Is there any way to learn if my grandfather went back to Italy for a visit between 1913 and 1924? Can you imagine seeing your child for the first time at age 11. Their sacrifices were huge.
Looking for Biagianti, Modesti & Vincenti in Tuscany and Tomaino, Curcio, Mazza, & Rizzo in Calabria

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby misbris » 12 Jan 2009, 00:30

Donna,

Here is a site you can use to search ship arrivals. It is great because you can search by name, date, town etc.

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisgold.html

WWI broke out in 1914 and lasted to 1918. It was almost impossible to travel to Europe in that time period. My own grandparents were caught in that same situation. My grandfather left Italy just before the outbreak of war and couldn't get my grandmother to the US until 1920.

If your Grandfather did go back to Italy, you would have to look for a return voyage to the US. No records were kept for people leaving the US.

Hope this helps.

ps.
Have you found your grandfather's WWI registration?

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby misbris » 12 Jan 2009, 00:36

By the way, Sorano and Pitigliano are very near each other, both in the province of Grosseto in Tuscany.

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby donnawright » 12 Jan 2009, 00:44

I have not found my dad's (Domenic Biagianti) nor my grandfather's WWII registrations (Liberato Biagianti). I found my uncle's active military record (Agrecio Biagianti).

Thanks for your help. I'll check out that link you sent. Should I be writing to the comune of Sorano for birth, marriage, etc, for all of my immediate ancestors in addition to those of Liberato's Parents?

Liberato Biagianti is my grandfather. His obit says his mother is Annunciata Vincenti and his father is Joseph Biagianti and that in 1966 when he died he had a living brother and two sisters in Italy--names not included in the obit. I want to find their ancestors and also find their living relatives.

Thank you for ideas.

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby wldspirit » 12 Jan 2009, 01:47

For current persons:

http://www.paginebianche.it/index.html

cognome=surname
dove=town, province or region
cerca=search

this will bring up address and phone numbers of those carrying your surname of interest.
Potential relative letter can be found at the following link:

http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... #relatives

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby vj » 12 Jan 2009, 13:40

donnawright wrote:I have not found my dad's (Domenic Biagianti)
nor my grandfather's WWII registrations (Liberato Biagianti).
I found my uncle's active military record (Agrecio Biagianti).


From ancestry. com
1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Name: Liberato Biagianti 58
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1883
Residence:
1599 3rd Avenue
Freedom, Beaver, Pennsylvania
Birth: Sarano, Italy
Contact person: Egelzia Biagianti at same address
Employer: Penna RR, Conway, Beaver, PA
Roll: WW2_2243669

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Re: About Italian Comunes and Help locating port of immigrat

Postby pink67 » 12 Jan 2009, 17:56

donnawright wrote:Pink67 Thank you. where did you find that? I went to ellisland.org and looked under the ship Calabria, and there it was. I want to double check my investigational techniques with you, if I may. I DID look in ellisland.org under first name Liberato and found absolutely nothing.


You can find Liberato on the Ellis Island site using the advanced search...

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/search_new.asp?

put for example first name Starts with "Lib" and last name Starts with "Bian"
You will find 13 records, the last but one is Liberato Biangianti :wink:

Hope this helps...
Laura :D


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