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Grisanti and Sartorie

Postby Backfiremillie » 17 Jan 2009, 12:43

Does anybody know the ancestors of this families and their domiciles in Italy:

Carlo Matteo Sartorie (alias Sartone, Sertori), he was married with Anna Maria Grisanti (alias Grezante, Greasanti, Chrisanti, Crisanti) on 2d of may 1756 in Amsterdam.
The ancestors of Anna are Petrus Joannes Grisante and Anna Maria Lefeber. They are married in ~1695.
Carlo moved from Italy to the Neterlands to Amsterdam. He was a specialist in plastering and he has done the restauration of Keizergracht 672 in Amsterdam. This is a now Museum van Loon.

Carlo and Anna had 9 children. They where born in Amsterdam. One of them Anna Catharina Sartorie married a dutchman Barend Berck on 29th of july 1791. He is an ancestor of my wive.

I know all the sites on internet, like familysearch etc.

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Re: Grisanti and Sartorie

Postby uantiti » 17 Jan 2009, 14:01

Hi,
Sartorie is not correct as an Italian surname, nor Grezante, Chrisanti, Greasanti.

On the Italian telephone directory there is 1 Lefeber and is in the Liguria region, province of Imperia (NW Italy). In the same province you can find Sartori, Sartore, Grisanti, Crisanti, etc.

Insert surname where it says cognome o azienda
liguria where it says dove and click Cerca

Telephone directory

Could be a start but not sure their origin was from there as those surnames, excepting Lefeber, are common also in other regions.

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Ada

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Re: Grisanti and Sartorie

Postby Backfiremillie » 17 Jan 2009, 17:43

Thanks

Its an indication but there is only one woman registrated. It is not an group of Lefebers.

In the Netherlands we have a lot of genealogy pages on sites of from the local authorities. Is this common in Italy too? Can yoy mention some of them?

By the way the birth-archives in Amsterdam of the grandchildren, mentioned those different names. Until now i didn't know what the correct name was. The Dutch/Italian granddaughter use de name Sartorie when she married. I will change the parents surnames in the correct way.

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Re: Grisanti and Sartori

Postby Backfiremillie » 23 Jan 2009, 13:26

Repeated message (with a bit more information)

Does anybody know how I can get information about the family of
Carlo Matteo Sartori born around 1727 probably in Milano, he was married (on 2-5-1756 in Sloten, Amsterdam) with Anna Maria Grisanti who was born in Amsterdam around 1710. Her parents Pietro Giovanni Grisanti (born around 1700 in Livorno?) and Anna Maria Lefeber (born in Amsterdam?).

Is there maybe an electronic (via internet) genealogy- or churcharchive in Italy? I already looked in familysearch without result.

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Re: Grisanti and Sartorie

Postby PeterTimber » 23 Jan 2009, 13:30

There are church archives but not often available on the internet but MAY be researched with due digligence. Do you have any church in mind? =Peter=
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Re: Grisanti and Sartorie

Postby Backfiremillie » 23 Jan 2009, 13:43

Thanks for you reply.
When I look at the names it must be Roman-catholic churches. I think everyone had that religious background in those ages. The presumed places of birth are the only connection i have.


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