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Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby baxterspal2 » 19 Jan 2009, 19:53

Looking for the names of each of their parents, birth place, Amalia's maiden name, anything prior to coming to NY.

Francesco Massa b Feb 1868 in Italy, Torino area?
Amalia ? b March 1868 Italy area ?

Francesco emm. to Brooklyn NY in abt 1891, he was a shoemaker, went back to Italy around 1898 Married Amalia and ret to NY abt 1894.
Children- Rose, Bridget, Anna, Mary and adopted George

Any info greatly appreciated

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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby pink67 » 19 Jan 2009, 20:16

Hi baxterspal2,

on the site Ancestry.com (a payed-subscription site) I found the 1900 census for the family, here is:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Frank Massa
Name: Frank Massa
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 6, Kings, New York
Age: 32
Birth Date: Feb 1868
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Marrie
Marriage Year: 1895
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 5
Residence : New York City, Kings, New York
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Massa 32 head, birth date: Febr.1868, married since 5 years, year of immigration 1896
Marrie Massa 32 wife, birth date: March 1868, married since 5 years, year of immigration 1896
Rosie Massa 3 daughter, birth date: March 1897, born in Italy, year of immigration 1899
Bridgett Massa 2 daughter, birth date: October 1897?, born in NY

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Did you found their arrival manifest in the U.S?

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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby wldspirit » 19 Jan 2009, 20:49

Documentation needs to be located which will reveal the maiden name, and that of the parents, as well as birthplace.

Ship manifest, draft registration, naturalization, and church records are the best place to start. Obituary and cemetery records are another.
A marriage application for the daughter born in Italy may reveal town of birth and mothers maiden name.
Obtaining a birth record for one of her children may also reveal her town of birth if the census info is correct and she was born in Italy.
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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby Biff83 » 19 Jan 2009, 20:55

New York Petitions for Naturalization
Name: Francesco Massa
Birth Date: abt 1868
Age: 34
Naturalization Date: 18 Jul 1902
Former Nationality: King of Italy
Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1894
Arrival Port: New York, New York
Title and Location of Court: Kings County, New York
Volume: 320
Page No.: 177
Record Number: 973

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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby pink67 » 19 Jan 2009, 21:07

Also the death certificates could list the birth place...
From the site:
http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathSearch.asp

maybe this could be the death date for Amalia:

Massa Amalia
61 y
Sep 4 1931
Certificate number: 18937 Kings

If you think these dates are concerning your ancestor you can request the certificate:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... home.shtml

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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby wldspirit » 19 Jan 2009, 21:14

Thank you pink, along with the obituary and cemetery records I forgot to include the death records!! :wink:
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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby pink67 » 20 Jan 2009, 07:59

Ciao Lee,

I was only considering that sure Francesco, his wife and the little daughter are listed on an "early" arrival manifest so possible there will be no place of birth or last residence listed... Francesco was born on 1868 so I don't think there will be a Military enlistment for him. :cry:
I saw just some death certificates and it's not a rule they have the exact birth place listed (often there is only "Italy") but it could be, sometimes... (maybe the poster could be lucky in this!)
At least there can be the parent's names or the exact birth date...

On the same site I found also a possible record for Francesco:

Massa Francesco
70 y
Sept 28 1938
Certificate number 18905 Kings

There is another Massa Francesco who died in the Kings county on 1929 (age 68) but as I found the 1930 census for Francesco and his wife I think it's possible the first I wrote is the correct one...

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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby wldspirit » 20 Jan 2009, 10:51

The earlier ship manifest do not contain much in way of info....which can be very frustrating.
But the death record should contain some relevant information, and when you are at a brickwall.....each document should be looked at for any clues they may hold..... :D
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Re: Francesco and Amalia Massa

Postby vj » 20 Jan 2009, 14:28

pink67 wrote:Hi baxterspal2,
...
1900 United States Federal Census
...
Bridgett Massa 2 daughter, birth date: October 1897?, born in NY

[img=http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3241/massafrancesco1900censujx4.th.jpg]
...
Laura


If this is Bridget’s birth record, it should have her mother’s maiden name
Valarie

from ancestry. com
New York City Births, 1891-1902

Brigida Massa
03 Oct 1898
Certificate 14678

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives
(same address that Laura listed in an earlier post)


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