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Postby fredoniapeaches » 27 Jan 2009, 17:56

Ok...alot of you are way better than me at finding mysteriously "lost" information. I've been on ancestry.com for a year and half...and still can not find a whole lot of documentation to follow my great great aunt.

Her name was Catarina DiLorenzo Giammarino. She was born January 8th, 1889. what little I do have of her...(1900 & census, ss death index, marriage cert) indicate she was born in America...BUT, her mother (Carmella Parella) came over with my great great grandfather in JUNE of 1889...

while here they americanized their names...so she became Cate Lawrence, except on "Really" official documents... She Married Paolo Giammarino in rochester in 1904 (when she was 15)...they had at least one daughter, named Helen. and for quite some time they lived in NYC...before she returned to her family in Rochester...and I don't know how long she was married for...or if her husband died long before she did or after...or if she had other children. all I know is she died in rochester in the early 1970s...

so anyhelp tracing her through time (via census or other records...) would help sooooo much.

thanks guys!!

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Postby PeterTimber » 27 Jan 2009, 19:23

Carmela Parella arrived January 15, 1880 with (??) from Antwerp on the SS rhynland at age 6 destined to Hartford Connecticut. Since I did no have grandfathers name perhaps you might want to research this in the www.castlegarden.org website. =Peter=
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Postby fredoniapeaches » 27 Jan 2009, 19:34

thank you peter. but Carmela didn't come over until 1889. she only ever made one trip over. my great grandfather's name was Ferdinando DiLorenzo...he went back and forth for a few years. his eldest son (my Great grandfather) Michele came over in 1887 and went back and forth a couple of times.

But Carmela only made one trip over. June 17, 1889. in 1900 they were living with his brother in Glen Falls NY...and Carmela had just died during childbirth with uncle Joe.

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Postby fredoniapeaches » 27 Jan 2009, 19:41

my bad. My great grandfather was BORN in 1887...came over in 1889 as well.

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Postby PeterTimber » 27 Jan 2009, 19:42

Did you try for any Boston entries? Since they were destined upstate it would have been easier to travel from Boston rather than NYC. =peter=
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Postby fredoniapeaches » 27 Jan 2009, 20:16

I have their ship manifests. they just don't show Catarina on any of them. she was only 6 months old...so I"m not sure if they even recorded her as a passenger...but I have her brother (my g grandfather), I have her mother and her father's ...
but what I also don't have...and more interested in (right now anyway) is her 1910 through 1930 census and other assorted records from her adulthood...

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Postby pink67 » 27 Jan 2009, 20:33

Hi Fredoniapeaches! :D

it's only a little clue....I noticed on the 1900 census that Kate declared her birth date August 1889...

Do you have her marriage certificate? she declared NY as place of birth..
Just in case you don't have:
form the site:

http://www.ci.rochester.ny.us/Finance/R ... ECID=31404

City of Rochester Archives and Records Center
Historic Marriage Records Research Site Search Results
(Scroll down to see the entire record)

Page Number 182
Date of Marriage 02/14/1904
Husband's First Name PAVLO
Husband's Middle Name
Husband's Last Name JAMMIRENO
City ROCHESTER
State NY
Husband's Age 20
Husband's Color W
Husband's Occupation VARNISHER
Husband's Birth Place ITALY
Husband's Birth State NY
Husband's Father's First Name GIUSTINO
Husband's Father's Middle Name -
Husband's Father's Last Name -
Husband's Mother's First Name MARIA
Husband's Mother's Maiden Name
Husband's Mother's Last Name JAMMERINO
Husband's Number of Marriages 1
Wife's First Name CATARINA
Wife's Middle Name
Wife's Maiden Last Name DILORENZO
Residence/City CITY
Residence_State -
Wife's Age 17
Wife's Color W
Wife's Birth Place -
Wife's Birth State NY
Wife's Father's First Name FERDINAND
Wife's Father's Middle Name
Wife's Father's Last Name
Wife's Mother's First Name CARMELA
Wife's Mother's Middle Name
Wife's Mother's Maiden Name PARELLA
Wife's Number of Marriages 1
Marriage Official's Name J E GEFFEL
Marriage Official's Position
Where Recorded
Roll Number 2

hope these help!

Laura

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Postby fredoniapeaches » 27 Jan 2009, 20:45

thank you. I do have this record. that' s how I found out who she married ;) all of the information i have on her is very conflicting. her death record states she was born in NYS...in January of 1889. so I don't know what to believe.

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Postby pink67 » 28 Jan 2009, 17:24

Do you know the birth date and place of Helen her daughter?...

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Postby fredoniapeaches » 28 Jan 2009, 17:33

the closest I can come to a birth place is NYS. as for Helen's birthdate...between 1909? and 1930?

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Postby pink67 » 28 Jan 2009, 17:55

fredoniapeaches wrote:all I know is she died in rochester in the early 1970s...


and she died as Catherine Giammarino?

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Postby fredoniapeaches » 28 Jan 2009, 18:08

She died as Catherine Lawrence (her maiden named that the family americanized) in Rochester NY

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Postby fredoniapeaches » 29 Jan 2009, 13:58

on July 6th, 1935 from the Rochester Union and Advertiser (newspaper, Rochester, NY) Ferdinando's Obit...
Cate is listed as Mrs. Catherine Lorenzo. but her youngest two sisters were listed as DiLorenzo (her other sisters who were married were listed with their husbands' last names.)
So, I have no idea what ever happened to her husband, the only document I have with his name on it...is their marriage record. and between 1910 and 1930...I have nothing on Catherine or her family at all.


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