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Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby rgmb » 01 Feb 2009, 17:48

My husband's grandmother was born in Casano Italy on March 27, 1890. She arrived in the US and went to Chicago with her brothers Adam and Louis. Her name is shown on records as Emma (Tate) Lama. Any ideas or help - including whether or not these names could have been changed upon arrival in the US? Thanks so much.

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Feb 2009, 18:07

Casano is a "frazione" (suburb or absorbed village) of the town (comune) of Ortonovo, 19034, (la Spezia province, Liguria region). There are 3 Lama in La Spezia but none in Ortonova. Go to owww.paginebianche.it and put in Lama in the first line and SP for province of La Spezia and click CERCA for the listings.

If you wish to write to these persons as potential relatives or to Ortonova for documents go to www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/it ... tters.html for form letters in Italian

To find mailing address for Ortonova go to www.nonsolocap.it and put in Ortonovo and then click on Ortonovo and scroll down to "municipio" for Ufficio di Stato Civile address.
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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby rgmb » 01 Feb 2009, 18:19

Thanks for your response. However, I just noticed I spelled the name wrong. Her place of birth was CANSANO which i believe is in the region of Abruzzo, am I correct? Thanks,

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Feb 2009, 18:31

Cansano 67030, (Aquila Province Abruzzo) is the correct place. Go to www.paginebianche.it for 7 Lama in province of Aquila...=Peter=
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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby pink67 » 01 Feb 2009, 18:32

Hi,

just for references, is this census(from Ancestry.com site) correct for Emma and her brothers??

1920 United States Federal Census
about Emma E Lama
Name: Emma E Lama
Home in 1920: Toledo Ward 12, Lucas, Ohio
Age: 25 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Sister
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1913
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 536
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Armando F Pate 30
Lewis Pate 23
Emma E Lama 25
Viola Lama 4 7/12

[img=http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2348/teti1920censuscv7.th.jpg]

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby rgmb » 01 Feb 2009, 18:44

Hi: Yes, this is the correct person. She's listed here in Toledo with her brothers. But, I'm still having no luck with the last name Pate as shown. Emma's death certificate shows Tate as her maiden name. Thanks.

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby pink67 » 01 Feb 2009, 19:13

I think the correct last name could have been Teti...
I found the military Enlistment for Adam Edmund Teti?/Tati, here is:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Adam Edmond Tate
Name: Adam Edmond Tate
City: Toledo
County: Lucas
State: Ohio
Birthplace: Italy place of birth Sulmona - L'Aquila Province- Abruzzo region
Birth Date: 3 Jul 1889

Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1851239
DraftBoard: 5

Address: 47 Walbridge, Toledo OH (same as the 1920 census)
He was supporting his sister and niece

[img=http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7841/tetiadamwwife7.th.jpg]

I found this arrival manifest for Armando Teti from Sulmona, do you think possible it's the right Armando?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Armando Teti
Name: Armando Teti
Arrival Date: 10 Apr 1903
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Gera
Search Ship Database: Search the Gera in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 1
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_339
Page Number: 34

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0001

And possible his brother Louis (Donato?) joining him in Chicago in 1909?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Donato Teti
Name: Donato Teti
Arrival Date: 30 Nov 1909
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Luisiana
Search Ship Database: Search the Luisiana in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 18
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1381
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: suhuona (Sulmona)
Page Number: 42

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby pink67 » 01 Feb 2009, 20:12

From the site Ancestry.com here is the confirmation of the correct last name:

Detroit Border Crossings and Passenger and Crew Lists, 1905-1957
about Emma Eva Teti Lama
Name: Emma Eva Teti Lama
Arrival Date: 16 May 1950
Age: 57
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1893
Birthplace: Sulmnue Sulmona
Birth Country: Italy
Gender: Female
Race/Nationality: Italian

Port of Arrival: Detroit, Michigan
Departure Contact: Sister Eva Teti
Arrival Contact: Brother Adam Tate

Microfilm Roll Number: M1478_

Image:

[img=http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/517/tetiemmaarrivalfo8.th.jpg]

Contact in Italy:
Sister Eva Teti, Via Trieste 8 - Angone?? (Maybe Agnone?)

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby Biff83 » 01 Feb 2009, 20:31

Nice work, Laura!!

From Laura's Border crossing find:
1913 manifest for Emmea Teti and brother Luigi, lines 18 and 19
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Page 2

Name: Emmea Teti
Arrival Date: 7 Dec 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 23
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Sant Anna
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Last residence: Sulmona
Place of birth: possibly Cansano
Nearest relative in Italy: father Antonio Teti
Destination: Terre Haute Indiana to join brother Armando

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby pink67 » 01 Feb 2009, 20:48

Thank you Biff... :D
Nice find too the arrival manifest for Emma and Luigi...
So, it seems the two brothers were born in Sulmona and Emma in Cansano...
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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby rgmb » 01 Feb 2009, 21:56

This info all fits into my husband's recollection of his grandmother and her brothers and sisters. Thanks so much for all your help. You folks are great!

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby Biff83 » 02 Feb 2009, 15:47

1930 census for Emma and children living with brother
Name: Emma E Luma (Lama)
Home in 1930: Toledo, Lucas, Ohio
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Sister
Marital status: Widowed
Household Members: Name Age
Adam E Tate, head, age 41
Emma E Lama, sister, age33
Viola E Lama, niece, age 14, born Ohio (on 1920 census born Illinois)
Daniel Lama, nephew, age 11, born Ohio

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby Biff83 » 02 Feb 2009, 15:53

Brother Luigi?

Ohio Military Men, 1917-18
about Louis Tate
Name: Louis Tate
Serial Number: 794489
Race: W
RESIDENCE: 132 11th St., Toledo, O.
Enlistment Division: Regular Army
Enlistment Location: Fort Slocum, NY.
Enlistment Date: 04 May 1917
Birth Place: Salmoni (Sulmona?), Italy
Birth Date / Age: 21 1/2 Years
Assigns Comment: Troop G 3 Cavalry to 30 May 1917; Co I 64 Infantry to Discharge Private Defensive-Sector. American Expeditionary Forces 3 Aug 1918 to 18 June 1919. Honorable discharge 26 June 1919.
Volume #: 17

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Re: Tate or Lama Family Name

Postby Biff83 » 02 Feb 2009, 16:02

Possible WWII Draft Reg card for brother Luigi
Name: Louis Tate
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1896
RESIDENCE: Atlantic, New Jersey
Birth: Sulmone, Italy
Race: White

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