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Relatives from ANCONA

Postby jayne » 23 Feb 2009, 23:17

Can anybody help.

I have a STEPHEN VINANEA born 1805 in Ancona. He died in England in 1881. His father was Bartholomy Vinanea.

Does anybody know of the VINANEA surname in Ancona?

Thanks :?
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby PeterTimber » 24 Feb 2009, 00:10

Dear Jayne there is no Vinanea listed in the Ancona telephone directory, nor its province or its region. The surname is not current in any part of Italy which lead me to conclude that there is a mispelling here or the name is extinct in Italy. There is no listing for the surname in the Italy surname dictionary making the surname either local in origin or imported from abroad and italianized.

I will check out the Mormon www.familysearch.org listings for the name and if there is a record I will be back, if not my silecne is your message. =Peter=
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby PeterTimber » 24 Feb 2009, 00:13

Your initialinquiry is based upon the 1805 birth in Italy and an english listing as well. Perhaps if you go to www.findmypast.com which is a paying website may be of assistance on a one shot check for little money.. =Peter=
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby jayne » 24 Feb 2009, 21:10

Thanks for the info Peter. Doesn't surprise me. I have no way of knowing whether this is a correct spelling. I saw it somewhere listed as Vin'anea, but it is generally listed as Vinanea on all the English Census reports. I do have a subs. to Findmypast, but have found nothing on there. Thanks for having a look anyway.
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby Marcas » 19 Sep 2014, 21:42

I think VINANEA is what we get when trying to write down foreign sounds, aka when a migrant shows up at some office in 1800 . Hint: analfabetism was the norm.

So I've calculated the soundex code, which is V550, and searched like-sounding italian surnames. Let's have a look at top matches.
vanini =V550
venini =V550
vanoni =V550
All real italian surnames.
In this approach I can lookup those into registries of Ancona. But I still need an information: have you extracted the mother name,surname of Stephen Vinanea in census(es)? I need it in fact.
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby jayne » 05 Mar 2015, 16:52

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding, I had not checked my emails at this address for a long time.
I don't really have any further information about Stephen Vinanea's parentage. My only clue is that his father was Bartholomy (Vinanea?)
I really do not know where to look and I agree with you that the name was probably corrupted on arrival in England.
Thanks for any help,
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Re: Relatives from ANCONA

Postby Marcas » 23 Mar 2015, 22:53

Let's try in another way: could you record how you (or a true anglosaxon) would pronounce VINANEA? Let's have Italian speakers hear it, and propose better approximations...
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