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Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 23 Feb 2009, 23:18

Looking for information on Orso Texel abt 1860 died before 1910 was married to a Catterina Isoardi(o) had a son Nicolo born in Torino 23 Oct 1884.
I am not sure if there were coal mine sin this part of Italy but the Texel family seemed to be involved with coal ( immigrated to Wales in early 1900s) There is an old family story that Orso may have been an orphan, raised in an orphanage in the area

Also Looking for info on Ambrogio Pugno also b abt 1860 was also deceased before 1910. He married Melani Estras a french girl. The story is that this made the local women angry that Ambrogio went outside the village to marry and they would only refer to Melani as "That French WOman" they had a daughter, Angelina ( Angiolina) in Torino on 23 Oct 1887. The story of the orphanage was also attached to Ambrogio at times I do know that Ambrogio was a musician ( accordian?) and he played in local night spots for extra $. One night he was leaving his work and was robbed. He was hit on the head during the robbery and died of his head wounds - I know that this was before 1910 but where this occurred I don't know.

Nicolo Texel & Angelina later married in Wales in 1910 by 1922 they had immigrated to America

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby PeterTimber » 23 Feb 2009, 23:43

In Italy most records are located in the place of origin and docuemnts relating to births,marriages and deaths are provided free of charge. There are other documents that can be uncovered in the provincial capital but knowledge of the name of the city,town or village of origin is paramount. Can you please asdvise what information you are seeking and where did Orso texel originate? =Peter=
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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 23 Feb 2009, 23:48

I was hoping to find either marriage certificates for either couple
or death certificates for any of my ancestors listed except Melani ( she came to NY in 1922) All of the information I have point to all but Melani having been born in Torino

Sorry- I am still so new to all of this-

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby PeterTimber » 24 Feb 2009, 00:03

Torino the city or Torino the province and its dependent towns and villages? Are you certain the City of Torino is the place of birth? =Peter=
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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 24 Feb 2009, 00:06

I am not certain, but i know the families lived in Torino at some point

Again my apologies-
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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 24 Feb 2009, 00:09

I have a birth certificate for Nicolo that he was born in the Comune Torino in 1884

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby misbris » 24 Feb 2009, 00:25

The Family History Center has civil records for Torino from 1866 to 1978. This might give you some information about the family.



http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... umns=*,0,0

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby pink67 » 24 Feb 2009, 09:38

Hi!

I found a very interesting 1913 arrival manifest for Angelina travelling with her son Giuseppe (age 3) and joining her husband Nicola Texel in NY...

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Angelina Pugrien
Name: Angelina Pugrien
Arrival Date: 24 Oct 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 26
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Le Havre
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: France
Search Ship Database: View the France in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 4
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2207
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: sorderola
Page Number: 157

Unfortunately I didn't found a place in Italy called Sorderola, maybe the name was mispelled....
I found a Comune named Sordevolo in Piedmont region...

She was leaving in Italy in Torino her mother Ester Pugno

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005

and their 1930 census in NYC:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Nicholas Texel
Name: Nicholas Texel
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Angelina
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Texel 45 head, born in IT, immigr. in 1913
Angelina Texel 42 wife, born in IT, immigr. in 1914
Adele Texel 14 daughter, born in NY
Joseph Texel 19 son, born in England, immigrat. in 1914
Lucy Gabellini 7 Niece, born in NY
Philip Giordano 21 boarder...

[img=http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1131/texel1930census.th.jpg]

Laura

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 24 Feb 2009, 14:59

Laura

I think Sordevolo may be correct- I know that Angelina's daughter Adele ( my grandmother) was very proud of her Piedmontase heritage.

Thank you!!

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby uantiti » 24 Feb 2009, 15:08

The name of the town SORDEVOLO is correct, they just mispelled the last letter on the manifest writing an "a" instead of an "o". Sordevolo is a small village which was in the province of Novara at the beginning of 1900, then in the province of Vercelli and now in the province of Biella (70 kms far from Turin). You can still find some persons with surname Pugno in the province of Biella, not in Sordevolo but in nearby towns.
What I don't understand is why Angelina declared on the ship manifest that she and her son were born in Sordevolo and you have them born in Turin. Her son on the census is born in England.

As far as I know there were no coal mines in Piedmont but there were in France. Many people from Piedmont went to France to work in coal mines.

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BTW I'm from Biella!!

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 24 Feb 2009, 15:33

I was actually looking for the info for Angelina's parents- Ambrogio Pugno and Melani Estren ( Estras) or the info for parents of Nicolo Texel ( I know he was born in Torino) Orso Texel and Caterina Isoardi(Isoardo).

I got the information that Angelina was born in Torino from her death certificate- but as that information came from her son Joseph, it could very well be incorrect.

I have Angelina's son Joseph ( Guiseppe) birth record from Wales

If somewhere in my original post I stated that Joseph was born in Turin, I apologize.

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby uantiti » 24 Feb 2009, 16:10

I would suggest that you request for Angelina's birth certificate from Sordevolo and also ask whether there is a birth certificate for her father or a Marriage certificate for their parents. As I said is a small village, about 1,000 people. The officer in charge is

Geom. Silvana Coda Riz

This is the link with address and e-mail

Ufficio Anagrafe.

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby pink67 » 24 Feb 2009, 19:54

Grazie Ada!

these dates maybe should be helpful (in case you don't have it):

From Ancestry.com:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Nichol D Jack Texel
Name: Nichol D Jack Texel
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1884
RESIDENCE: Queens, New York
Birth: Torino, Italy
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2372291

Image:
[img=http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1561/texelwwii.th.jpg]

edit to add:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Nicholas Fexel
Name: Nicholas Fexel
City: Manhattan
County: New York
State: New York
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1884
Race: White
Roll: 1765769
DraftBoard: 106

[img=http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/5404/texelwwi.th.jpg]

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby rstolliver » 24 Feb 2009, 20:10

Of thank you so much! I missed the Nicholas Fexel card!!


I will work up nerve to write to Sordevolo and ask for a Birth record on Angelina!

Thank you all :)

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Re: Pugno & Texel Family from Torino

Postby uantiti » 24 Feb 2009, 20:33

Here you can find form letters for your request

http://circolocalabrese.org/resources/letters/index.asp

Let us know.

Ada


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