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Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby AmbroseSimone » 06 Mar 2009, 06:06

Great grandparents are Basilio Simone and Basilia Simone. They came to US around 1910 and settled in Ohio. Looking for any information for them or their ancestors. Thanks!
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby wldspirit » 06 Mar 2009, 06:11

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby AmbroseSimone » 06 Mar 2009, 13:10

Basilio Simone- per his death certificate: birthplace: Italy; birthdate: May 10, 1881; date of date: May 13, 1947 Cleveland, Ohio Father: Giatano Simone and his mother as Nunzio Simone.

Basilia Simone- per her death certificate: birthplace: Italy; birthdate: Nov 2, 1888; date of date: Feb 7,1952 Cleveland, Ohio. Father: Antonio Iro and her mother as Concetta Scorza. On a death certificate of a child of Basilio and Basilia, Basilia's maiden name is listed as Isop. A family member says he is sure it is Iro though. I don't have siblings for either one of them.

I don't know what part of Italy they came from, other than family always says they are from Sicily? I am hoping to find information on both of their parents, etc and if there were any siblings. Thanks!

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Mar 2009, 13:23

hi AmbroseSimone,

I believe the correct last name for Basilia was Irò... and the place of origin San Marco D'Alunzio (Messina Province-Sicily region)
Here is Concetta Sforza's 1921 arrival togheter with her daughter? Irò Nunziata they were joining the daughter/sister Irò Basilia living in NYC

from Ancestry.com:

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
about Concetta Scorza
Name: Concetta Scorza
Arrival Date: 28 Feb 1921
Age: 62 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Princess Matoika
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Basilia Iro
Last Residence: Messina
Birthplace: S Marco, Messina
Microfilm Roll Number: 261

page 1:
[img=http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/850/scorzaconcetta1921arriv.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6134/scorzacocnetta1921arriv.th.jpg]


on this (free) site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... tml#p=home
you'll be able to see also Basilia's death certificate, the handwritten of his father's lastname was Iro...

Hope this helps!
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Mar 2009, 13:38

Here some information in your language about San Marco:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_d%27Alunzio

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2009, 13:43

Here's a possible Philadelphia ship manifest for Basilio, line 30
Name: Basilio Simone
Arrival Date: 14 Jul 1910
Age: 30 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Ethnic Background: Italian (South)
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Ancona
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last residence and place of birth: San Marco d'Alunzio, province of Messina, Sicily
Destination: Cleveland OH
Previously in US: 1902 to 1907
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby PeterTimber » 06 Mar 2009, 14:32

Dear Ambrose Simone the Mili San marco referred to is part of the city of Messina being located on a road and not a "frazione" ( a village or hamlet absorbed by expanding city boundries but rather much like a cluster of buildings like our 711, gas station and diner and/or pizza shop.

You can go to www.nonsolocap.it and put in San marco and when the listing shows up you will see that tothe far right it is classified as "ON THE MESSINA ROAD". Click on that legend and an adminstrati ve page will show up with the address for Messina City Hall under MUNICIPIO if you want documents. Further under the legend Mappa di Messina you can see the topography of the city of Messina just click on the word Mappa. =Peter=
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2009, 14:35

Basilia Iro's 1914 Philadelphia ship manifest, line 7
(note I was only able to locate the first page; second page mislinked)
Name: Basilia Iro
Arrival Date: 25 Feb 1914
Age: 25 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Ancona
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last residence: San Marco d'Alunzio
Nearest relative in Italy: father Antonio
Destination: Cleveland OH
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby AmbroseSimone » 06 Mar 2009, 14:36

Laura- Thank you so much! I had no idea Concetta came to the US and now I have the name of another daughter of hers! This is exciting and I appreciate your help! Thank you for the links also. Is it possible to find the passenger list for Basilia?

Biff- Thank you also for the info on Basilio! Although this passenger list says he came in 1910, it also says he was previously here between 1902-1907. Would he have gone back in 1907 and then returned again in 1910 married to Basilia? I don't know if they were married in Italy or US.

I really appreciate all the info- gives me more to work with. Thank you!
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2009, 14:47

AmbroseSimone wrote:Biff- Thank you also for the info on Basilio! Although this passenger list says he came in 1910, it also says he was previously here between 1902-1907. Would he have gone back in 1907 and then returned again in 1910 married to Basilia? I don't know if they were married in Italy or US.

I really appreciate all the info- gives me more to work with. Thank you!
Sharon


We're happy to have helped.
Based on the ship manifests found for Basilio and Basilia who were both single, their marriage happened subsequent to Basilia emigration in 1914. Wish that the 2nd page of her manifest wasn't missing since it may have given more details.

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby AmbroseSimone » 06 Mar 2009, 14:47

Maybe I am confusing myself--- her occupation is listed as housewife -- that makes me think she was married but wondering why her last name would be Iro and not Simone?
Sharon

Biff83 wrote:Basilia Iro's 1914 Philadelphia ship manifest, line 7
(note I was only able to locate the first page; second page mislinked)
Name: Basilia Iro
Arrival Date: 25 Feb 1914
Age: 25 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Ancona
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Last residence: San Marco d'Alunzio
Nearest relative in Italy: father Antonio
Destination: Cleveland OH
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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby liviomoreno » 06 Mar 2009, 14:51

PeterTimber wrote:Dear Ambrose Simone the San marco referred to is part of the city of Messina being located on a road and not a "frazione" ( a village or hamlet absorbed by expanding city boundries but rather much like a cluster of buildings like our 711, gas station and diner and/or pizza shop.

You can go to www.nonsolocap.it and put in San marco and when the listing shows up you will see that tothe far right it is classified as "ON THE MESSINA ROAD". Click on that legend and an adminstrati ve page will show up with the address for Messina City Hall under MUNICIPIO if you want documents. Further under the legend Mappa di Messina you can see the topography of the city of Messina just click on the word Mappa. =Peter=


The place is San Marco d'Alunzio. See http://www.nonsolocap.it/sicilia/36-san ... /55-mappa/

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby Biff83 » 06 Mar 2009, 15:02

AmbroseSimone wrote:Maybe I am confusing myself--- her occupation is listed as housewife -- that makes me think she was married but wondering why her last name would be Iro and not Simone?
Sharon


Her maritial status is shown as single. Even if she were married, she would be travelling under her maiden name. It was and still is the custom in Italy for women to use their maiden name on documents.

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby pink67 » 06 Mar 2009, 15:04

Thank you, I'm very glad to help... :D

From this free site:
http://dxsrv4.cpl.org/WebZ/html/obit.ht ... 1990244761

Basilia's obituary:

Id#: 0724032
Name: Simone, Basilia
Date: Feb 9 1952
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #156.
Notes: Simone, Basilia (nee Iro), beloved wife of the late Basilio, mother of Thomas, Anthony, Mrs. Nancy Puglio, Mrs. Concetta Davis, Mrs. Rose Jano and Mrs. Mary Cipiti, grandmother and great grandmother, passed away Thursday, Feb. 7. Friends received at P. Coreno Funeral Home, 10514 Kinsman Rd. Services Monday at St. Anthony Church, at 10 a. m.



San Marco D'Alunzio is a town (Comune) 64 miles far from Messina...
http://www.messina-sicilia.it/english/s ... lunzio.htm

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Re: Looking for SIMONE family genealogy

Postby PeterTimber » 06 Mar 2009, 15:21

Dear AmbroseSimone Since the San marco was not clarified as being a comune or not and at first was San Marco and later called San Marco D'alunzio, I thought that mentioning Mili San Marco was in order so in the event that there was an oversight you could have the option of knowing all the facts. I am a firm believer in the adage that you should never overlook the obvious. =Peter=
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